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1. ICOM-CC 21st Triennial Conference submission deadline for papers - 4th April 2025 2. RE: Removing dye from ivory handles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1.From: Kate Seymour Posted: Sunday March 23, 2025 10:57 AM Subject: ICOM-CC 21st Triennial Conference submission deadline for papers - 4th April 2025 Message: Reminder: Call for Paper Submissions for the 21st ICOM-CC Triennial Conference – Deadline: 4th April 2025 ICOM-CC and the Oslo National Organising Committee would like to remind the conservation community and affiliated professions of the 21st ICOM-CC Triennial Conference, scheduled for September 2026 in Oslo, Norway. The deadline for submitting papers for oral presentations and inclusion in the Conference Preprints is 4th April 2025. The Conference Preprints Platform is now open and ready to receive submissions (https://preprints.icom-cc2026.org/ <https://preprints.icom-cc2026.org/>). Please create an author account for each contributor and submit your abstracts by the stated deadline. Abstracts may focus on the conference theme, Cultural Connections in Conservation, or on individual ICOM-CC Working Group Triennial Programmes. For more information about the Conference, visit here <https://icom-cc2026.org/>, and for details about ICOM-CC's Working Groups, visit here <https://www.icom-cc.org/en/working-groups/list>. We look forward to receiving your contributions and learning about your projects, research, case studies, and experiences. By sharing your work, you will help shape the future of the conservation profession and contribute to the field's growth. ------------------------------ Kate Seymour Founder and Owner Art Conservation Education Maastricht Netherlands ------------------------------ 2.From: Rainer Geschke Posted: Sunday March 23, 2025 4:35 PM Subject: RE: Removing dye from ivory handles Message: Dear Mr. Mueller-Straten, is is advisable to consider the amount of restoration and conservation three times rather than just once before you start with any treatment. But what do you mean by 'preserve every impact'? Do you mean to say to stop conservation/ restoration altogether, to stop any treatment on any object and to preserve anything that has ever happened to it? If any damage would have to be considered part of the object's history and would have to be kept, conservators would no longer be required. I rather believe any objects has to be considered individually, treated differently or indeed not treated at all, depending on the individual object and what is going to happen with it. Kind regards, Rainer Geschke ------------------------------ Rainer Geschke Conservation Berlin Germany ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------- Original Message: Sent: 03-22-2025 02:55 From: Christian Mueller-Straten Subject: Removing dye from ivory handles Excellent remark and warnings, Miko. The damages of the leak are part of the history of the object. Conservation has to conserve all historical impacts and does not mean to transform a musical instrument back to its presumed original status. Leave the stained ivories as they are, please, and do not replace them, as final approach, with new ivories. Respect history and age, and allow to tell the story of the leak. Best Christian ------------------------------ [Christian] [Mueller-Straten] [Researcher, Publisher, Art Historian] [Owner] [Verlag Dr. Christian Mueller-Straten] [Munich] [Germany] [0049-89-839 690 43] [https://www.museum-aktuell.de] https://www.museum-aktuell.de/CEO <https://www.museum-aktuell.de/CEO> ------------------------------ Original Message: Sent: 03-21-2025 07:12 From: Miko Vasques Dias Subject: Removing dye from ivory handles Kirsty, the ivory will lighten when exposed to light/UV, not so much the stain. If the damage was caused by a leak (water?) often it'll have to be solved with another leak, in a controlled matter. Without knowing anything about the coloring material that was left in the very porous ivory your treatment remains a shot in the dark. Some of the products that were suggested in this thread are US specific brands, it would be helpful to us over the pond knowing what the active ingredients are. ------------------------------ Miko Vasques Dias Wood and Furniture Conservator Lecturer University of Amsterdam Program in Conservation and Restoration Amsterdam Netherlands Original Message: Sent: 03-21-2025 05:52 From: Kirsty Clark Subject: Removing dye from ivory handles Thank you, will definitely give UV a try if i can. ------------------------------ Kirsty Clark London United Kingdom Original Message: Sent: 03-20-2025 23:40 From: Linda Roundhill Subject: Removing dye from ivory handles I had a minor success using alcohol to lessen a pink dye stain and then some more success with UV light, but it was a long time ago and I don't recall the details. It would depend on the dye and how deep it has migrated. ------------------------------ Linda Roundhill Conservator/Owner Everett United States Original Message: Sent: 03-18-2025 07:14 From: Kirsty Clark Subject: Removing dye from ivory handles Hello Martin. thank you so much, will give this a try if we can! ------------------------------ Kirsty Clark London United Kingdom Original Message: Sent: 03-17-2025 20:59 From: Martin O'Brien Subject: Removing dye from ivory handles Kirsty, I use a lot of dyes and inevitably will get some on my skin when a glove gets a puncture. I use a special hand cleaner called Reduran which removes the dye stain from my skin as if magic. I'm not sure if it would be suitable for ivory however. I'm a wooden objects conservator and know very little about ivory. Reduran was re-named a few years ago to Kresto Kolor Special. Sadly it was discontinued by the manufacturer/distributor here in the States, but I suspect that it might still be available in UK or Europe as it seems like a European product. If you do find it over there, let me know as my supply is running low and there is no replacement. There is an entirely different product called Amodex and it is marketed to people who use fountain pens . . . sooner or later fountain pen users get ink on their clothes. You might consider looking into this product as well. Best wishes, ------------------------------ Martin O'Brien PA-AIC Wooden Artifact Conservator in Private Practice Winston Salem, NC 336-773-1334 Original Message: Sent: 03-14-2025 11:29 From: Kirsty Clark Subject: Removing dye from ivory handles Hello, I am currently conserving a set of instruments with ivory handles. They were damaged in a leak, and the dye from the case was transferred onto the ivory. We have managed to remove some of the dye but it is still pretty obvious. We have tried humidifying, IDA and WA paste, but it has not removed the dye. I was hopping that someone may have more experience and ideas into what could be done to remove the dye. Thank you, ------------------------------ Kirsty Clark London United Kingdom ------------------------------ You are subscribed to "Global Conservation Forum (ConsDistList)" as [email protected]. To change your subscriptions, go to http://community.culturalheritage.org/preferences?section=Subscriptions. To unsubscribe from this community discussion, go to http://community.culturalheritage.org/HigherLogic/eGroups/Unsubscribe.aspx?UserKey=d16eaa87-0f69-494b-9f2f-303dbc1222e1&sKey=fab9aa4f27a04c5d876e&GroupKey=757a8f16-505f-4323-8e74-e376757aa9f7.
