----- Original Message ----- | From: "Clayton Coleman" <ccole...@redhat.com> | To: "Dusty Mabe" <du...@dustymabe.com> | Cc: devto...@redhat.com, "Aslak Knutsen" <as...@redhat.com>, "container-tools" <container-tools@redhat.com> | Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 6:04:05 PM | Subject: Re: [Devtools] openshift is way too permissive in the CDK/ADB | | It's surprising to you because you know that there *should* be | protections and then try to reduce them. For the vast majority of | users, there is no surprise, because they have no expectation. | | Explaining that expectation, helping users transition, and educating | them via example is something we need to be doing across the board. | But forcing them to take that first step the moment they start is a | burden.
I am agree on this point. We have to improve our documentation around transition for time being until we have something like 'oc debug' by default. | | On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Dusty Mabe <du...@dustymabe.com> wrote: | > | > | > On 05/18/2016 07:18 AM, Aslak Knutsen wrote: | >> I think most teams at the Brno F2F were struggling with this. It works | >> locally, but semi-obscure failures when pushed 'live'. And out of the 30 | >> RH engineers there, none knew 100% or was able to dig up a doc that | >> explained why and how to fix it... | >> | >> This is/will be a massive pain point moving from Dev to Production. The | >> very least we need some very clear, simple guides on how to make it work. | > | > Yeah, I think a lot of people are going to be very frustrated by this. | > It took me over an hour to track down and that's only because I know a | > lot about how the CDK is set up. Others would probably never be able | > to figure it out. | | _______________________________________________ | Devtools mailing list | devto...@redhat.com | https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/devtools | -- Praveen Kumar https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kumarpraveen _______________________________________________ Container-tools mailing list Container-tools@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/container-tools
