start build has no idea what your destination runtime environment is,
unfortunately.

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Burr Sutter <bsut...@redhat.com> wrote:
> Actually I was thinking we need the warning on "oc start-build" since that
> is how we are primarily re-deploying to OpenShift for Helloworld MSA.
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Clayton Coleman <ccole...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, this is an openshift problem (really, it's container platform,
>> but we'll use OpenShift as a proxy here).
>>
>> We have added things that make it easier, and warnings, but people
>> don't read stuff.  For instance, new-app warns you, and "oc status"
>> tells you exactly what to do, but we need it in more places.
>>
>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Burr Sutter <bsut...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Aaron Weitekamp <aweit...@redhat.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Dusty Mabe <du...@dustymabe.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 05/18/2016 07:18 AM, Aslak Knutsen wrote:
>> >>> > I think most teams at the Brno F2F were struggling with this. It
>> >>> > works
>> >>> > locally, but semi-obscure failures when pushed 'live'. And out of
>> >>> > the 30 RH
>> >>> > engineers there, none knew 100% or was able to dig up a doc that
>> >>> > explained
>> >>> > why and how to fix it...
>> >>> >
>> >>> > This is/will be a massive pain point moving from Dev to Production.
>> >>> > The
>> >>> > very least we need some very clear, simple guides on how to make it
>> >>> > work.
>> >>>
>> >>> Yeah, I think a lot of people are going to be very frustrated by this.
>> >>> It took me over an hour to track down and that's only because I know a
>> >>> lot about how the CDK is set up. Others would probably never be able
>> >>> to figure it out.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> For the "eval" use case we made the right choice. Dusty's question is
>> >> about the CDK use case. To my mind the CDK should add value to a
>> >> n openshift eval environment. This is a great opportunity for the CDK
>> >> to
>> >> provide tooling to address this ubiquitous problem. Mitch Harpur's
>> >> ideas
>> >> around this months ago were spot-on: walk devs through a journey,
>> >> educate
>> >> them, etc.
>> >
>> >
>> > Either the CDK can add this additional "tool", to help walk an end-user
>> > through a "proper" Dockerfile or pre-built container image.
>> >
>> > OR
>> >
>> > Openshift could offer this tool and I believe that is where it belongs.
>> > Because Openshift Online Users are going to hit this 100 times an hour
>> > once
>> > we open up the floodgates.  :-)
>> >
>> >
>> >>
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