John,

I looked at the version before your edits; that was pretty egregious, and
I'm glad that's fixed.

I'll put a disclaimer for the remainder of this reply:
I'd be interested to hear takes on this from American square and contra
historians on this subject, whether it's from this list or any discussion
that might spin off elsewhere.

...

So, while I do think that the edit that you removed, John, was appropriate,
and I think labeling the whole dance form as "racist" is inaccurate an
enormous disservice, I do think that the wikipedia page could use more
examination.
The entry doesn't mention contributions of black Americans at all.

This line here:
" This practice became common by the early 1900s and gave rise to the
modern caller.[9]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_dance#cite_note-:0-9>"
has the citation for Phil Jamison's book on the subject, and Jamison is
pretty clear that the contribution by black Americans was both widespread
and critical to how calling evolved.

So if I were going to suggest an edit to the page, I think that this line
be revised to mention the 1800s instead of the 1900s (or both) and mention
the role of black American servants and slaves in the rise of calling,
since that's a major topic in Jamison's book.

I didn't have time to look through all past revisions; I'm unsure if that
had been included and then edited. But that may be worth looking into as
well. It's possible that this sort of content was in past revisions, and
whitewashed by other editors.

Interestingly, while Henry Ford's wikipedia page has a section on his
racism/antisemitism, it doesn't mention any of his musical interests, not
even his fiddle playing.
Given he poured large sums of money into promoting contras and squares,
that seems like an oversight. But that page is a whole nother discussion, I
suppose.

Back to the Square Dancing page - it does have a few sentences about how it
grew in the 30s, 40, and the 50s revival - but doesn't mention Ford in the
20s at all.
A quick summation: https://www.americanheritage.com/square-dancing-master

It's also perhaps worth considering that there were concerted efforts by
lawmakers over decades to make square dancing the "official" dancing.
And it was very successful, given how many American elementary school
programs taught / teach square dancing and no other dance forms. (John, I'm
unsure how aware or not aware you are of this, as a UK person.)
A solid read on this subject:
https://qz.com/1153516/americas-wholesome-square-dancing-tradition-is-a-tool-of-white-supremacy


In dance,
Julian Blechner
he/him
Western Mass




On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 6:10 AM John Sweeney via Contra Callers <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>               The Wikipedia “Square Dance” entry, which covers all Square
> Dance (Playford, ECD, MWSD, traditional American, Irish, etc.) was recently
> vandalised with claims that Square Dancing is racist and antisemitic.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_dance
>
>
>
>               These claims have now been removed.  But, in order to show
> how far from the truth they are, I thought it might be nice to set up a
> page which showed all the different styles of Square Dancing from around
> the world and across time.
>
>
>
>               I therefore created this page:
> http://contrafusion.co.uk/SquareDanceHistory.html with a brief history
> and lots of diverse videos.
>
>
>
>               I would be grateful for any additions, corrections,
> suggestions, etc., especially for suggestions of videos which show any
> other forms of Square Dancing, or from any other countries.
>
>
>
>               Please let me know if you have any good ideas.
>
>
>
>               Thanks.
>
>
>
>             Happy dancing,
>
>                    John
>
>
>
> John Sweeney, Dancer, England   [email protected] 01233 625 362 & 07802
> 940 574
>
> http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
>
>
>
>
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