Of course, there is often some interaction with the same role person in your 
minor set (chains, allemandes…), but when that occurs I find it’s not important 
that they were previously identified. Instead, I find the humor involved in the 
lesson helps put beginners at ease. And I typically get a nice laugh when I 
identify the person that way.

> On Apr 25, 2025, at 4:41 PM, Jonathan Sivier via Contra Callers 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Except when they do.  There are lots of dances where you interact with that 
> corner/diagonal/same role person.  I can see the point of not going into 
> great detail on that, but I wouldn't dismiss them as being meaningless and to 
> be ignored.  I usually say something like, "you have your partner and your 
> neighbor and then there is 3rd person diagonally across from you who you may 
> interact with sometimes."  I usually don't go into any more detail about who 
> that person is, but I want the new dancers to be aware there is someone there.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On 4/25/2025 6:34 PM, jeff - syncopaths via Contra Callers wrote:
>> During the lesson, I typically identify the others in the minor set as your 
>> partner, your neighbor, and the person you can ignore because they don’t 
>> really matter much to you.
>> -- 
>> Jeffrey Spero
>> Culver City, CA
>>> On Apr 25, 2025, at 4:05 PM, Angela DeCarlis via Contra Callers 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Same-role neighbor; but usually I don't bother identifying that person as I 
>>> orient folks in a lesson. I just talk about the folks you have hands with.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025, 6:56 PM Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    I've used several designations, depending on the context:
>>> 
>>>    Same-role neighbor
>>>    Diagonal neighbor
>>>    Diagonal
>>> 
>>>    Or I might have fun pointing out that your neighbor's partner is also 
>>> your partner's neighbor, but you can call 'em Jay.
>>> 
>>>    Jerome
>>> 
>>>    Jerome Grisanti
>>>    660-528-0858
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>>> 
>>>    On Fri, Apr 25, 2025, 6:22 PM Amy Wimmer via Contra Callers 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>        Hi All,
>>> 
>>>        What do _you_ call your neighbor's partner in a 4-some when teaching 
>>> a lesson?
>>> 
>>>        e.g.: "This is your partner, that is your neighbor, and that is 
>>> _______."
>>> 
>>>        -Amy Wimmer
>>>        Seattle
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