This debate has been had on one of these lists in the recent past, I
believe, though I’m not in a good place to look it up. Or it might have
been in one of the Facebook groups.

The “opposite” in square dancing is the opposite-role person across the set
from you, not the same-role person diagonal from you. I would avoid
“opposite” for this reason, and I would instead use it for the
opposite-role person across from you in a 4x4.

“Opposite” is three syllables. “Neighbor’s partner” is four. It’s not so
much of a stretch, given how rarely it’s needed.  I’ve never used it in a
beginner workshop and have never even thought about it being missing.  (My
workshop is enough to do the first dance, not a comprehensive overview.)

More frequently, we hear “other lark” and “other robin” or just “larks” and
“robins” before describing a move they do. If larks are dancing with larks
and robins are dancing with robins, it’s rare they are doing the same thing
but yet you can’t just say “everyone.”  Can anyone give an example of a
dance where it’s needed?  I know they said in a workshop, not a dance, but
now I’m curious if it’s actually never needed.

—jh—


On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 8:38 PM Alex Burka via Contra Callers <
[email protected]> wrote:

> The word I'm coming up with is "opposite", but I'm also not sure that
> person is necessarily relevant enough to need a name (especially in the
> beginner lesson)...
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025, 6:56 PM Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I've used several designations, depending on the context:
>>
>> Same-role neighbor
>> Diagonal neighbor
>> Diagonal
>>
>> Or I might have fun pointing out that your neighbor's partner is also
>> your partner's neighbor, but you can call 'em Jay.
>>
>> Jerome
>>
>> Jerome Grisanti
>> 660-528-0858
>> http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
>>
>> "Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and
>> power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025, 6:22 PM Amy Wimmer via Contra Callers <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> What do _you_ call your neighbor's partner in a 4-some when teaching a
>>> lesson?
>>>
>>> e.g.: "This is your partner, that is your neighbor, and that is _______."
>>>
>>> -Amy Wimmer
>>> Seattle
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