Hello, here are the minutes of the weekly Kernel Projects meeting from today:
(06:49:17 CET) odl_meetbot: Meeting ended Tue Jan 15 17:49:17 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html . (v 0.1.4) (06:49:17 CET) odl_meetbot: Minutes: http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.html (06:49:17 CET) odl_meetbot: Minutes (text): http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.txt (06:49:17 CET) odl_meetbot: Log: http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html Tx, M. #opendaylight-meeting: kernel-projects Meeting started by vorburger at 16:56:56 UTC (full logs <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html> ). Meeting summary 1. *Attendees please #info in* (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-5>, 16:57:07) 1. vorburger skitt brendan jmorvay Martin Sandberg (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-7>, 17:02:48) 2. *Agenda Bashing* (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-8>, 17:02:59) 1. Daya raises Martin from E. hit some NETCONF issues in ONAP using ODL Oxygen (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-9>, 17:03:59) 2. jmorvay saw JIRA from Martin, it's about TLS support in netconf clustered implementation (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-10>, 17:05:07) 3. jmorvay thinks porting non-clustered to clustered should be possible, he'll have a look (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-11>, 17:05:17) 4. https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/NETCONF-594 (jmorvay <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-12>, 17:07:09) 3. *skitt Ongoing version bumps* (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-13>, 17:07:51) 1. need a new 4.0.9 but has an issue which rovarga is looking into helping to fix (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-15>, 17:09:02) 2. current situation: all projects have merged bump patches and build fine, but distribution is broken (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-17>, 17:10:36) 4. *Tell based?* (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-18>, 17:11:39) 1. Daya is asking about where we are with regards to switching based Tell based (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-19>, 17:11:55) 2. rovarga says that tpantelis was looked at the CSIT for Tell, and things that it looked like it was pretty much working (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-20>, 17:12:33) 3. the "CSIT" here refers to Controller CSIT, not full leaf project (like netvirt). Days says jamoluhrsen said in the netvirt meeting he'll run test (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-21>, 17:13:42) 4. rovarga suggests starting a new thread on a list like controller-dev to track this (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-22>, 17:14:14) 5. Daya points to an existing JIRA in netvirt which tracks current status (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-23>, 17:14:43) 6. https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/NETVIRT-1322 (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-24>, 17:15:56) 5. *Can the RESTCONF draft implementation be dropped?* (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-25>, 17:17:38) 1. jmorvay raises the idea of dropping the code of the draft implementation (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-26>, 17:18:14) 2. main effort seems to be adjusting the CSIT tests, not removing the Java code (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-27>, 17:18:49) 3. step 1: duplicate netconf.git CSIT jobs such that we have one set talking bierman02, the other talking RFC8040 (rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-33>, 17:24:32) 4. step 2. declare bierman02 endpoint "not recommonded" or deprecated (i.e. use RFC8040 if at all possible) (rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-34>, 17:25:17) 5. 3. migrate all of CSIT to use RFC8040 (which *will* find bugs) ( rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-35>, 17:25:33) 6. step 4. deprecate bierman02 by not installing it by default ( rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-36>, 17:26:16) 7. step 5. remove the code (rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-37>, 17:26:29) 8. steps 2 and 4 need to happen on release, i.e. must be documented and release noted (rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-38>, 17:27:45) 6. *Sodium planning* (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-39>, 17:29:04) 1. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Kernel_Projects_Call (rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-40>, 17:29:21) 2. skitt mentions some work in planning odlparent, mostly clean up and version bumps with breakages (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-41>, 17:30:38) 3. rovarga skitt discuss the need for breaking version changes .. "gain vs. pain", incl. e.g. the Jersey version bump (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-42>, 17:31:16) 4. Nobody is jumping up to tackle the Jersey version ump (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-43>, 17:33:05) 5. yangtools and mdal has nothing major planned (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-44>, 17:33:30) 6. controller as MRI? - let's discuss this in a future weekly meeting when we have Tom (vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-45>, 17:37:29) 7. yangtools does not have major changes ready, the cost/benefit is simply not there to spend full-time on developing and stabilizing things for downstream consumption (rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-46>, 17:37:43) 8. https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/INTTEST-55 (jmorvay <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-47>, 17:38:17) 9. mdsal has some stuff which would warrant a major release (rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-48>, 17:38:34) 10. I've opened the issue to track RFC 8040 in netconf CSIT (jmorvay <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-49>, 17:38:48) 11. 1) remove DataObject.getImplementedInterface() which was forgotten when we have eliminated getKey() and getAugmentation() ( rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-51>, 17:40:40) 12. this is low-impact on downstreams, as it affects only generated code and controller/netconf tests (rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-52>, 17:41:51) 13. IFF we go for Java 11, that would warrant a new major odlparent ( vorburger <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-53>, 17:41:58) 14. 2) change union generation, limited fallout in downstreams ( rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-54>, 17:42:10) 15. 3) change 'list foo { key bar }' with ordered-by=system from List<Foo> to Map<FooKey, Foo> (rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-55>, 17:44:13) 16. this is very useful to downstreams, but will cause major compilation breakage (rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-56>, 17:45:19) 17. hence mdsal will probably shoot for a major release containing 1) but little else (rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-57>, 17:45:37) 18. odlparent may need a major release contingent of whether the TSC decides to make Sodium a Java 11-only release (because of source=8 -> 11 change) (rovarga <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html#l-58>, 17:46:13) Meeting ended at 17:49:17 UTC (full logs <https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2019/kernel_projects/opendaylight-meeting-kernel_projects.2019-01-15-16.56.log.html> ). 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