On Monday 10 March 2003 10:00 am, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> > I'm not trying to start a war here it's just the facts. Allot of users
> > are
>
> Except you keep just posting stuff like the paragraph above, which
> *isn't* facts, it's vague assertions. It's true, but unless you start
> relating it to specific things in KDE and GNOME, it doesn't wash. If you
> *can* relate it to specific things that aren't already being worked on,
> I'm sure the GNOME team would like to hear from you. (This isn't
> trolling - I genuinely want to know what you think the difference is,
> and you haven't spelt it out yet.)
Oh well it all comes down to usability and besides when the customer says this
is what I want no amount of arguing one way or the other will change there
mind. You simply do your best to give them what they want.
I cant say in each specific case why they prefer what they do and quite
frankly it does not matter all I know is this is what they want so I give
it to them. The simplest solution is the best one. Besides I did note there
are specific apps which do stand out. Evolution is a very good example.
<only for my use>
For my personal use I've been using kde for a long time. Unless gnome has
importers for my addressbook and who knows what else I will not switch over
besides I'm comfortable with what I have and gnome although offers the same
functionality does not offer anything that is compelling for me to switch
when I can simply run the few gnome apps under kde that meet my need.
</only for my use>
>
> > barely competant to use even microsoft word let alone understand what is
> > going on with the system. So for all you power users out there go live it
> > up enjoy your gnome but don't ask me to install it by default for my
> > business users who can barely even turn a computer on much figure out all
> > the setting for the window manager. You guys unless you do the it stuff
> > for some big places really don't have any idea.
>
> I just don't see the difference, to be honest. Your average luser runs
> an email client and a browser, right? I just don't see the difference
> between giving him a desktop with KMail and Konq buttons, and one with
> Evo and Galeon buttons...most business users would probably prefer Evo
> to KMail, too, since it's a dead ringer for Outlook.
It's more like the default layout I think but I'm not really sure. Whatever
the case I simply try to fulfill the customers wishes.
>
> > In finishing there are some outstanding gnome apps. Evolution, xchat,
> > gftp, and gaim comes to mind but until the ease of use is there for all
> > their apps it's not feasible. By the way I have both installed on my own
> > system not that it matters.
>
> xchat and gftp aren't GNOME apps, they're GTK+ apps, not part of the
> GNOME project. There's a difference. They don't integrate with the GNOME
> framework at all (afaik), intentionally. gaim is almost the same - its
> GNOME integration is optional and currently very limited.
Ah sorry I was unaware of this for my own personal use it's just best of breed
that wins out. For me personally whatever does what I need and is the easiest
to use with the most functionality is the app that gets the most use.
Again here for my own use I do check gnome stuff out every so often but I
eventually go back to kde. Not because of anything inherently with gnome but
for me I simply prefer the kde desktop. Call it comfort from long years of
use. I did start using gnome years ago but the first time I used a kde
desktop I fell in love with it myself. I've preferred kde since. Gnome has
come a long way since then and gtk and gnome 2 are huge leaps above the older
stuff but it's not enough for me to switch. I keep looking though.
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