On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 18:25, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:Here is a cut-and-paste of what I said:
Thanks. Yes, this message did get lost somewhere.
I read the original through the gmane newsgroup. The message (not surprisingly) probably missed your Inbox.
File dialog is one legitimate problem, it's well known and well discussed, and is in the works for GNOME 2.4. No-one can agree on exactly what to do with it, though =). It's just a hangover, basically. GNOME 2.0 was a framework release so they just ported the old file dialog to GTK+ 2, and then there were more pressing things to work on for 2.2. One very nice thing to try in the GNOME file dialog that doesn't work in KDE, AFAICT - tab-completion! Type a partial directory name in the entry box, hit tab, see what happens...=)
KDE has it too, but it's not Tab anymore, it's like down arrow or something :o(
Take gnome-ppp versus kppp. gnome-ppp insists on a MRU of 296, and even if you change the settings, it doesn't use them, the 296 value is hard-coded into the gnome-ppp binary. This breaks EarthLink, who will not accept 296 as a valid MRU (that 296 value was valid when everyone was using 9600 modems BTW).
It also doesn't work with NAT. Some ISPs (hosting remote webservers) have their routers badly configured, and if you lower your MRU/MTU and use NAT, machines behind your NAT won't be able to reach some websites (including internet.com sites like LinuxToday last I checked).
It's little things, but all these little things add up...
As someone pointed out, the gnome-network stuff is incredibly obsolete and not shipped with GNOME anymore. So the point now is: KDE has kppp, GNOME doesn't have anything :).
And they're not concerned, they just use Kppp. There's not much good reason for a Gnome app when Kppp is so good.
I would add to this the fact that gnome always complains if the hostname doesn't resolve (this is a PITA), the icons are really bad compared to the KDE ones (specially the home icon),
man, I couldn't agree more
