On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 22:19, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 04:21, Leon Brooks wrote:
> > On Sunday 30 March 2003 04:31, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > Don't start crying "gentoo!", because if you get speed boosts via
> > > gentoo it's generally by using very aggressive compilation options,
> > > not by targetting your own processor architecture.
> > 
> > And there is a problem with that? As in, would your Mandrake distribution go 
> > all morbid on you for being rebuilt with a --too-much-testosterone option?
> 
> No, but I'd guess Mandrake has less aggressive compilation options for a
> reason. Would the distro actually all build right with more aggressive
> ones?

How about a slightly tangent viewpoint.  

http://www17.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030217/index.html

Here at toms they do a shootout of 65 processors from 100mhz to
screamers.  The most interesting thing is the 100mhz cpu with a monster
GeForce video card and 512Mb ram that rocks with UT2003.  The point is. 
Yes there is something you can get out of optimization of software for a
specific usage, hardware.  IF you have a very narrow usage band.  When I
was working for a realtime video company we would optimize the heck out
of software for exactly what we did.  It ran faster.  But, it didn't do
a dang bit of good for the box in general and in fact tended to make a
number of programs we didn't use slower.  (Most notably if I remember
right MySQL and other DataBases slowed way down if we ran it on one of
our optimized boxes.) A large move like i386 to i586 is significant for
a number of apps. Some ... it really doesn't help.  But to be honest.  A
better video card and more ram does more in a case like this than
anything else.  Want a real optimization.  Buy a CPU with a larger L1
cache.  Makes a huge difference.

James



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