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Luca Olivetti wrote:
> Buchan Milne wrote:
>
>>
>> Luca (Olivetti), I have just added this patch (or actually the more
>
>
> I hope you did it to the latest (2.1.14-2mdk) rpm, not to 2.1.14-1mdk.

Yes, I started with your -2mdk.

>
>> up-to-date one from Simon Matter's SRPM), which at present I have done
>> as another conditional (--with autocreate), even though I think it would
>> be safe to apply the patch (I will test both with and without the
>> directives in /etc/imapd.conf to see) by default.
>
> I find this patch *extremely* dangerous, but I won't complain too loudly
> if the option is left disabled in the default config file.

Well, at present it's not applied unless rebuilt with "--with
autocreate", but if people are happy that the default config won't be a
spam-trap, then maybe we should apply it by default, but keep the
default config safe. Thus far it seems ok as such (I got some rejected
mail trying to get it to work ;-)).

> Note that it
> doesn't support murder (see http://email.uoa.gr/autocreate/)
>

I did notice.

>>
>> Another issue is that there are some scripts (cpmsg,
>> bsd2cyrus,folderxfer,batchreconstruct,inboxfer) in Simon Matter's
>> cyrus-imapd for converting from mbox (ie UW-IMAP) format, which you
>> don't have. Since we need to convert from mbox anyway, I would like to
>> add this. Any objection? Should I make a subpackage (they seem to depend
>> on formail, thus will depend on procmail, which would be a bit of a
>> waste ;-)).
>
>
> I'd prefer a *separate* package

As in seperate SRPM?

>, for a couple of reasons, one because
> these are separate, stand alone utilities, and could have a different
> release cycle than cyrus (note that they aren't released as a tarball so
> it's difficult to track for new versions).

Yes, I made a tarball of it ;-).

> The other is that there are a
>  bazillion other utilities to convert from one mail format to another,
> mbox to imap or imap to imap, (e.g. I used something from UW imap
> utils), and it doesn't make sense to package all of these utilities in
> the same SRPM.

Well, I would be happy to find *one* solution that:
1)works
2)is not too difficult to use to convert a whole server
3)is free enough to package
4)has no extra requirements

I have just tried the bsd2cyrus/folderxfer etc script, but cpmsg doesn't
seem to want to do anything with the formail output.

BTW, I consider this to be a relatively significant issue, since it
seems 95% of all users who start a mail server on Mandrake get trapped
in uw-imap, so I feel we should provide an easy way to escape!

> Maybe batchreconstruct is the only one really cyrus
> specific, but I cannot comment since I didn't need it so far (in ~4
> years of cyrus use).
>
>>
>> Finally, there are a few other patches you don't have, any particular
>> reason, or can they be added as well?
>> cyrus-imapd-2.1.11-snmpargs.patch
>
>
> the comment and the spec file say that it's only needed for redhat 6.2.
> Anyway snmp is disabled in Simon's (and my) package. If someone needs/is
> using snmp with cyrus he could give us some advice (on needed
> buildrequires, patches, etc.).
>

Hmmm, the web monitor thingy in contrib would need snmp, and it might be
interesting to try it out, but I haven't yet, but I will assume we don't
need the patch.

>> cyrus-imapd-2.1.14-ipv6-20030703.diff.gz
>
>
> Don't use ipv6 myself so I cannot check if it's working correctly (I
> don't doubt the author's knowledge, but mine and/or strange interactions
> with linux and/or mandrake). I could test if it builds but nothing more.
> If it doesn't break anything (i.e. someone *really* test its
> functionality with the mandrake package) I'll have no problem in
> including it. But the same problem would arise with the next version of
> cyrus-imapd+ipv6 patches.
>

Indeed. I don't have access to ipv6, but it would be nice if someone
could test ipv6 stuff, but I guess if it's not in the mainstream source,
it probably means it's not ready yet ...

>> cyrus-imapd-2.1.3-flock.patch
>
>
> IIRC (but I may be wrong) it wasn't the correct solution for the problem
> at hand and CMU folks were skeptical about this patch:
>
>
http://asg.web.cmu.edu/archive/message.php?mailbox=archive.info-cyrus&msg=15115
>
>
> note that there's also cricisism about the munge8bit patch, and I'm not
> too happy to have it (but if the option is disabled it won't do too much
> harm).
> A followup message says that recent kernels don't have this problem (and
> this was a year ago).

OK, then I guess it will come down to adding the optional auto-create
patch, and finding the best set of scripts to package up for migrating.

Regards,
Buchan

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