On Thursday 28 August 2003 05:20 pm, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 23:05, w9ya wrote:
> > On Thursday 28 August 2003 04:33 pm, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 22:24, eddie wrote:
> > > > Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:26, Dave Cotton wrote:
> > > > >>Before I "retired" to France I worked in the UK as head of R&D for
> > > > >> the market leader in specialist software used in the construction
> > > > >> industry. If I caused this much havoc to our customers, with the
> > > > >> financial consequences to them, I would have been hung out to dry.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cooker has nothing at all to do with "customers". Cooker is for
> > > > > volunteer beta testers. That's what we are.
> > > >
> > > > After reading all your posts in regard to this problem I get the
> > > > impression that you truly do not understand the problem at all. The
> > > > "testers" are the customers! And if this is the way that Mandrakesoft
> > > > runs their testing program why would anyone care to buy their product
> > > > if they can not handle mirror syncs, do you get my drift Sparky?
> > >
> > > I was criticising the analogy, because it's not a valid one. Customers
> > > have a right to expect a certain level of service, because they're
> > > PAYING for a certain level of service. We are not paying to use Cooker;
> > > therefore we have no right to expect or demand any level of service.
> >
> > HAHAHAHA.....ah cummon....
> >
> > If the testers have problems, then they might leave, and less testers
> > means less testing. So......
> >
> > It makes sense to make sure testers can get programs/packages easily.
> >
> > ADDITIONALLY it makes sense to make sure the package-mirroring update
> > software is working correctly as well, as eventually this becomes
> > something CUSTOMERS will be using, if not in whole, in part (as a rule).
> >
> > While there is some basis to what you are saying Adam, there is ALSO a
> > good basis to expect the mirroring to be working well, or at least a hope
> > that the problems are attended to. I think, as such, an expectation that
> > the problems are being looked into in an appropriate manner is also
> > warranted, for the above mentioned reasons.
>
> I don't disagree with any of this. My criticism was mainly one based on
> tone. It makes me rather annoyed to see people posting in aggressive
> terms DEMANDING that so-and-so be fixed IMMEDIATELY and so forth and so
> on. This kind of attitude strikes me as totally misplaced and unhelpful.
> Cooker is a collective endeavour. It certainly would be better for both
> the testers and for Mandrakesoft if the mirrors were more reliable.
> However, the way some people are going about making this point is rather
> inappropriate.

O.k....I can accept that.

Bob F.


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