On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 14:09:00 +0200, David Baudens wrote:
> On Thursday 04 September 2003 13:30, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
>> David Baudens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > Problem is that a terminal emulator is not needed for an
>> > office/multimedia/internet/ect. workstation. So, if people who install
>> > computer don't explictly say he want to use a terminal, there is no
>> > reason to install it. It is why Konsole is not installed when KDE is
>> > installed.
>> >
>> > Act as that seems to me reasonable
>>
>> I humbly think that's not good.
>>
>> Just as a side note, in Windows XP, only solution to do a real
>> check of the disk is to open a "Command Prompt" (that's how it's
>> called, and it's installed by default) and to use "chkdsk" from
>> there. Just to show that even users of XP ("the easy OS") need
>> sometimes to do things in Command Prompt - and we even encourage
>> them to do a chkdsk from there before installing Mandrake.
>>
>> Now, there is another reason, maybe even more important: Linux
>> is, as Windows, still too complicated for most users, who tend to
>> ask their friends for support when they have a request. And these
>> friends will surely often ask them to open a "console" or a
>> "terminal" and launch whatever command from there. Hitting
>> Ctrl-Alt-F1 is more complicated (and won't work if they want to
>> launch an XFree app). Thus, a "terminal" program should be
>> installed and easily accessible from the Menu, in my humble
>> opinion (even if one is accessible from MCC, because if the
>> friend is a Debian fan he won't know that).
>
> ?
>
> I don't understand why people want always install a terminal. Most of users
> don't need it. If you need one, simply choose Consoles tools category when
> you can choose which packages should be installed. And if you need one
> after installation, simply launch rpmdrake and install a terminal.
>
> I can understand that most of people using Cooker need a terminal. But you
> also need to understand that we don't develop a product only for Cooker
> users. Most of our users simply don't need a terminal.
Then we should move Terminal menu entry from main menu to a subsection
(Applications is probably the best choice).
Moreover, for people not using GNOME/KDE default install (ie without
gnome-terminal/konsole installed), rxvt won't appear in menu, even if it
is available.. I think it is wrong, since our menu used to display all
available graphical applications installed on the system..
--
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft
