On Thursday 04 September 2003 14:11, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 14:09:00 +0200, David Baudens wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 September 2003 13:30, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> >> David Baudens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > Problem is that a terminal emulator is not needed for an
> >> > office/multimedia/internet/ect. workstation. So, if people who
> >> > install computer don't explictly say he want to use a terminal,
> >> > there is no reason to install it. It is why Konsole is not
> >> > installed when KDE is installed.
> >> >
> >> > Act as that seems to me reasonable
> >>
> >> I humbly think that's not good.
> >>
> >> Just as a side note, in Windows XP, only solution to do a real
> >> check of the disk is to open a "Command Prompt" (that's how it's
> >> called, and it's installed by default) and to use "chkdsk" from
> >> there. Just to show that even users of XP ("the easy OS") need
> >> sometimes to do things in Command Prompt - and we even encourage
> >> them to do a chkdsk from there before installing Mandrake.
> >>
> >> Now, there is another reason, maybe even more important: Linux
> >> is, as Windows, still too complicated for most users, who tend to
> >> ask their friends for support when they have a request. And these
> >> friends will surely often ask them to open a "console" or a
> >> "terminal" and launch whatever command from there. Hitting
> >> Ctrl-Alt-F1 is more complicated (and won't work if they want to
> >> launch an XFree app). Thus, a "terminal" program should be
> >> installed and easily accessible from the Menu, in my humble
> >> opinion (even if one is accessible from MCC, because if the
> >> friend is a Debian fan he won't know that).
> >
> > ?
> >
> > I don't understand why people want always install a terminal. Most of
> > users don't need it. If you need one, simply choose Consoles tools
> > category when you can choose which packages should be installed. And
> > if you need one after installation, simply launch rpmdrake and install
> > a terminal.
> >
> > I can understand that most of people using Cooker need a terminal. But
> > you also need to understand that we don't develop a product only for
> > Cooker users. Most of our users simply don't need a terminal.
>
> Then we should move Terminal menu entry from main menu to a subsection
> (Applications is probably the best choice).I agree. But is too late for 9.2. > Moreover, for people not using GNOME/KDE default install (ie without > gnome-terminal/konsole installed), rxvt won't appear in menu, even if it > is available.. I think it is wrong, since our menu used to display all > available graphical applications installed on the system.. xterm is installed if KDE or GNOME are not installed. -- David Baudens MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
