On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Fri Sep 05, 2003 at 08:08:52PM -0400, David Walser wrote: > > > >> am-utils is a very much-needed package for Linux to integrate into big > > >> "UNIX shops". > > >> > > >> NASA/JPL (at least in my section) is a big "UNIX Shop". Wiothout > > >> am-utils we are pretty screwed... is there a reason this package was > > >> removed from 9.2 ? Has it just been renamed? > > >> > > > > > > BTW, this package was removed from 9.1 also. I made my own RPM from the > > > only in 9.0, but it's still a hassle.
It's in contrib in 9.1 and cooker. > > > > > > When I reccomend Mandrake to other admins the first thing they ask is > > > "Where fsck is am-utils"? I then send them some RPM's... But it would be > > > nice if it was shipped standard... > > > > And you are using it instead of autofs because...? > > I'll tell you why I do. autofs is ok, but I find am-utils simpler, better, > and nicer performance. I was actually a little irked to find am-utils > missing in 9.1 as well (not that rebuilding from 9.0 was a big deal). But it's in contrib, there is an alternative in main => what's the problem? And if people miss alternative packages in main, and don't find the package they want in contrib, is it wise to put uucp in contrib??? Sorry, but it seems that you two have just managed to prove why moving something which has no better implementation in main to contrib is a bad idea (even experienced users miss it). > What floors me (and yes, I'm driving more nails into an already dead horse > for those on the maintainers list), is why we move out good useful stuff > like am-utils but keep in pretty much useless stuff like uucp. Well, if am-utils is better, it should replace autofs in main (autofs can go to contrib). But, AFAIK, there is no alternative for uucp, and packages in main (postfix) contain entries in the default config for it (thus you kind of expect it to be available ...). BTW, I haven't used am-utils, only autofs, but does anyone know if am-utils has ldapv3 support (autofs at present only has ldapv2 support, and this makes connections to openldap-2.1.x not work out-the-box). Regards, Buchan -- |----------------Registered Linux User #182071-----------------| Buchan Milne Mechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work +27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 ***************************************************************** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *****************************************************************
