Re: [Cooker] Final in Septembre???

[Emmanuel]

I agree with you but I find it so frustrating that such a good distro misses being a great distro on every releases. I have tried Redhat and Debian but for some reason I always come back to Mandrake. To be fair, I don't hink that Mandrake is bleeding edge anymore (i.e. compare MDK9.1 and RH9, very few differences) at least not as much as it used to be in the old days (when Mandrakesoft was run like a proper Linux company (i.e. release software when it's ready)). Let's not forget that MDK was forked from RH to create a viable desktop distro but if you look at the desktop improvements between 9 and 9.2, they are only "minor" (i.e. they have not achieve anything that other distros haven't). I do hope that 10 will be the best ever. Emmanuel Simon Oosthoek wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 09:10:51AM +0100, Emmanuel wrote: Hi all, Quick question for all of you guys: will Mandrakesoft release 9.2 even if it is not ready??? i.e. is Mandrakesoft desperate to get a version out before the end of Septembre or is there any chance for a RC3 ?? i.e. does management or development rule Mandrakesoft??? Based on past experience, 9.2 will be released on schedule on 20th of September even when it doesn't install for some people who have reported serious issues for their particular hardware. I suppose this is a company's way of making compromises :-( I'm wondering because the end of the month is only 2+ weeks away and only 3 of the bugs I reported have been fixed (some major showstoppers have not and no-one seems to be wanting more info). Furthermore, everybody knows that OpenOffice 1.1 is only 2-3 weeks away, it would be a real shame to ship 9.2 with 1.1RCx and then get users to download 100Mb+ of software to get the final version (I can't see any major corporation willing to do that - out of the box is very important) openoffice 1.1 will be in 9.2, whether it's rc3/rc4 or final depends on how soon they are released. Probably there will be lots of "security" updates and bugfixes announced in the first 2-3 months after the release of 9.2. Which is probably better than not providing them at all ;-) Anyway, I share your concerns, but they are/will be ignored completely by the Mandrake development process. Despite this, positive reviews of mandrake keep coming and customers seem to be satisfied (in general, AFAIK). If you cannot stand this way of working, use Red Hat, Suse, or even Debian. They have slightly less bleeding edge releases ;-) Cheers Simon PS, if I sound cynical, I am! But Mandrake still rules the desktop for me. I've learnt to live with all the cuts and bruises Mandrake's products cause me, but look at all my cool scars!