On Thursday 11 September 2003 23:31, Buchan Milne wrote: > On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, [adilz] wrote: > > The menu location should be standardized and the > > KDE default location can be used by all Linux distributions. > > And what about users who use GNOME, WindowMaker, IceWM? Or, do you think > it is more feasible to support 11 desktops/window managers instead of one > menu standard (currently shared by Debian and Mandrake)? > My second computer has Debian installed. The main difference is that Debian DOES NOT SUBSTITUTE the original KDE menu, but rather ADDS to it. > > If not, third > > party software installers will not create links in the KDE "start" menu. > > Tough. The use of menudrake is covered in the documentation in the distro. > OK, so the "third party" installers should use "menudrake" in case of Mandrake, Debian menu system in case of Debian, regular KDE menu system in case of hell knows what... Why do they need all this headache, if it's possible just to use the regular KDE menu system, and let users of some non-regular distribution cope with their problems themselves? > > Does it install menus for the other 11 window managers avaialble in the > distribution. > That's the root of the problem. Freedesktop.org standards are not ready yet, but once they are, the policy should be simple - any desktop that doesn't support these standards, just doesn't get included into the distribution, or is included as unsupported.
> > I would strongly suggest using the same location as KDE does for menus. > > Mandrake can add items and folders to that standard location and build > > the applnk-mdk menus there. > > And how do you propose ensuring that these menus do not get removed when > the new ones are rebuilt? > And how Debian does ensure? That's exactly what it does. > Sorry, but the problem is upstream. All the desktops should support the > standards for menus as specified int he freedesktop.org specifications. > Agree completely. > Until then, it is impossible to satisfy everyone completely. It is. Switch to the exact Debian way - add entries to KDE menu, don't substitute it. It's not only for third party applications, it's for installing from source too. It's not always possible to find Mandrake-specific RPM for some KDE application, especially for a fresh one. > Mandrake > provides easy to use solutions for both strategies, but defaults to using > a single consistent menu across desktops. If you install so much software > that it is such a waste of your time to create menu entries, swap to using > the original menus using menudrake. > > @resolution=invalid -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
