Guillaume Rousse wrote:
Ainsi parlait Vincent Danen :
I know all of this, just because i've been there for 4 years now. My point is that i'm fed up with oral tradition. No one knows about contribs outside cooker communauty. Among the few newbies that know about urpmi, they always use urpmi.update whereas none of their sources ever change. Etc...Actually, there is no point just explaining servers in contrib are notGood grief.. everyone wants policy policy policy... =)
updated. A real explanation of mandrake policy would be far better:
- what is main, what is contrib, and what is update ?
- what does get updated ?
etc...
Main is what is in the main tree. You know, what comes in the download edition. The stuff that is labelled "not contribs". The meat of the distro. The equivilant of Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
Contribs is contribs. It's labelled as such.
updates? Should be pretty obvious. Updates are stuff in main that need fixing for whatever reason.
Main gets updated. contribs doesn't.
I don't see what is so difficult about this. This is how it has *always*
been. It hasn't changed. No need for a policy regarding it. This is just
how it's done.
What we lack here is a clear explanation of mdk functionning targeted at outside world.
I agree we need a good graphical user guide for rpmdrake/urpmi, and a graphical database of main applications available (and the way to install them).
There was a good guide on http://trylinuxsd.com, but the site has disappeared (even the domain name is not registered anymore). Anybody knows if it has been moved, and where the autor is ?
I wrote a guide about urpmi, I fancy now to do a similar graphical guide than the one on trylinuxsd, but for general application installation. Then, coupled with a base of main applications (forgive me, but I will compare it with "Click-and-Run"), it could be a good start for beginners. rpmfind is a very fine base, but useless for the beginner.
Another good thing for Mandrake 10 would be to combine urpmi.setup with the source manager in rpmdrake. So that you can add sources with simple clicks. Of course, there is the problem of PLF, that should not appear on the source list. But at least, external sources should be easy to add.
I still don't understand why this wonderful piece of software that is urpmi/rpmdrake, as well as the all set of drakxtools, are not more advertised by Mandrakesoft. Another example : Mandrakeclub has the ATi 3D drivers. Most of people I know on forums (hardware.fr or rage3d), do not even know this. This would be on the main page of Mandrakeclub, it would boost the subscriptions.
Eric
