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Eric Fernandez wrote:

> I agree we need a good graphical user guide for rpmdrake/urpmi, and a
> graphical database of main applications available (and the way to
> install them).

What do you need a "graphical database" for? Do you mean screenshots? Do
you know how big a set of screenshots would be for all the applications
in contrib? In some cases a single screenshot could be larger than the
whole package!! IMHO you only need this if you are actually *selling*
applications (like Lindows). It may be worthwhile for the proprietary
stuff in MandrakeClub, but quite pointless for contrib, especially
considering the rate at which screenshots get obsoleted ...

>
> There was a good guide on http://trylinuxsd.com, but the site has
> disappeared (even the domain name is not registered anymore). Anybody
> knows if it has been moved, and where the autor is ?
> I wrote a guide about urpmi, I fancy now to do a similar graphical guide
> than the one on trylinuxsd, but for general application installation.
> Then, coupled with a base of main applications (forgive me, but I will
> compare it with "Click-and-Run"), it could be a good start for
> beginners. rpmfind is a very fine base, but useless for the beginner.

rpmfind is also useless for the advanced user, who needs only urpmi.

>
> Another good thing for Mandrake 10 would be to combine urpmi.setup with
> the source manager in rpmdrake.

Agreed.

> So that you can add sources with simple
> clicks. Of course, there is the problem of PLF, that should not appear
> on the source list. But at least, external sources should be easy to add.

I don't see why there should be any restrictions. Instead, the urpmi
media should carry a description of the repository, and any repository
which has legal problems would be required to stipulate those in the
description.

>
> I still don't understand why this wonderful piece of software that is
> urpmi/rpmdrake, as well as  the all set of drakxtools, are not more
> advertised by Mandrakesoft.

Does Mandrake advertise any other tools more? No. There simply isn't
much advertising budget, but they are well documented all over.

Does Debian advertise apt-get all the time? No. It's done by work of mouth.

> Another example : Mandrakeclub has the ATi
> 3D drivers. Most of people I know on forums (hardware.fr or rage3d), do
> not even know this. This would be on the main page of Mandrakeclub, it
> would boost the subscriptions.

And for the NVidia drivers, all you need to do is setup the Club source,
and run XFdrake, reselect the display card, and it will install the
drivers and set it up for you.

So, this is how I suggest users do it, but some prefer to download the
"latest and greatest", and follow the broken instruction in the
documentation that come with them, and stuff up their XF86Config-4 file,
and then complain that linux is too difficult ...

The only way to counter this is for people to give better advice ...

(BTW: ltmodem drivers can also be setup from Club in a similar way using
drakconnect)

Regards,
Buchan

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