On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 12:06:21PM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: > Suddenly I'm getting very tired of all of this again. Seems no matter how > hard you try, someone has something negative to say without contributing > something useful.
Oh yeah, I know this attitude ;-) I also know where your annoyance comes from. But you shouldn't feel threatened by or superior to cooker people trying to help mandrake succeed! In a lot of cases, the only way outsiders can help is by following the development of mandrakesoft's linux and occasionally test something. A few of us (actually, quite a few I guess) are able to spend time maintaining software for mandrakesoft. (And thus for all of us!). The rest is give feedback about what's going wrong (and opinions vary among individuals). If most of the comments here (in cooker) would be about how well everything is going and how wonderful mandrake is, who would get his head out of the clouds to dig in and actually fix the things that are still sub-optimal? The kernel mailinglist is also not a place where nice words are used to lead up to a serious bugreport, people just say: this is broken and here's why (the last bit is wishful thinking on my part ;-) I like mandrake's linux, so I appreciate all the work everyone puts into it and I understand that everyone's time is limited, including mandrakesoft's. In order for us to focus on helping mdk where it will be most visible and useful, we need to know where mdk is going. Cheers Simon