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Reinout van Schouwen wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> When you can't connect from any currently supported Mandrake release to a
>> Windows 2003 Server, did we ship an update to samba-3.0.0 for all the
>> current releases?
>
>
>> No. Because they are feature enhancements.
>
>
> Buchan, you should know better than comparing server products to desktop
> products.

Last time I checked, smbclient and /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb were used
for desktop products (sure, my argument on samba-2.0.6 vs 2.0.7 may not
be as valid). But, I think an end-user may be upset when they can't
print after someone upgrades their file/print server to 2003 without
notice ...

> Sysadmins know where to get their stuff.

So only sysadmins print? Use files on corporate file servers?

> End users don't. I
> wholeheartedly agree with the people here who say a new gaim should be
> in the Bugfix updates, then at least there'll be *some* chance they'll
> get a working gaim installed. MSN/Yahoo not working in an app that
> claims to support those accounts, is technically a regression, and
> Simply Broken from end user point of view, and we should do everything
> to prevent that.

So, then there should be updates for 9.1 also?

As I said to Rob, file a bug (Rob can file a bug at
http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com since he is using a stable release?).

Look, I am not arguing that there should not be an update, but:
- -there's no chance of it being in the initial release of 9.2 (I hope
everyone has realised this, which was the issue that was initially
oovered by this thread)
- -bitching on cooker is likely not going to help, if you want an official
response, file a bug
- -there should be a policy on updates to avoid this kind of discussion in
the future
- -the policy should be applied fairly (and thus must be reasonable). If
we are going to ship a gaim update, I think it would be reasonable (but
require more testing) to ship a samba update, because IMHO they are
equivalent (unless your assertion that only sysadmins print and access
files is valid).

So far, no one has been willing to file a bug on gaim, so it's likely
not going to get any official attention (which was more what I was
aiming to bring across ...).

Regards,
Buchan

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