On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Buchan Milne wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On 8 Oct 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> >>That's not obvious to me. Packages (programs) installation has
> >>been simplified in rpmdrake2 (ending up with, among others,
> >>current two-different-interfaces which is so critized - even if
> >>it's logical and drastically simplifies the GUI). Simple
> >>categories are available, good documentation in powerpack manuals
> >>and online (and even with a clickable "Help" button now).
> >>
> >>If newbies don't use Packages Installation, I think it has more
> >>to do with the fact that a computer is frightening in general -
> >>they won't use other tools as well, outside of mozilla and
> >>evolution and openoffice, until a trusted computer literate
> >>friend shows them another one - probably not an administration
> >>one.
> >>
> >>And I'm sure many other persons use rpmdrake2 and are very happy
> >>with it.
> >
> > rpmdrake2 is wonderful. But, it still keeps surprising me how people
> > think. The last few days I've been helping a person trying to get
> mandrake
> > running. He's not so computer illiterate, but only knows windows and dos.
> > Somehow, he tried to install all kinds of programs from source or binary
> > tarbal, without even trying to use rpmdrake (ofcourse he might have not
> > found the programs he was looking for because only 1 CD was added as
> > media, since he only downloaded the first CD).
> 
> But, which media are available are of no consequence, if the user didn't
> even try rpmdrake ...

yes, probably you're right. I should ask him, maybe he looked only at it 
and decided it didn't have the stuff he wanted.

> 
> The problem is that Windows users are used to getting "free software"
> (really "Shareware" or "freeware") by downloading from obscure sites on
> the internet.
true :)

> > So could rpmdrake
> > provide info on packages, even if there is no media available for it?
> >
> 
> How? Telepathy?
You're not very optimistic today:-P
 Might be a bad idea, but, we could just 
store all of main+contribs+jpackage hdlists on the drive? As all 
these media are static, it is silly to get them from a mirror. 
So you can search at look at the description, and only if you really want 
it you can select a mirror to download it from.

> 
> I think this is already done.
how do you mean "done" ?
do you refer to urpmi.setup? It is not really integrated in rpmdrake?

d.



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