Hi, Thank you all for your responses! This thread is much more than I've expected. These are a few clarifications, cause I see that there are already some ideas better then what I originally had.
--- Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > of view. However, I was slightly disappointed to > find > > that "the great modifications" in RpmDrake in 9.2 > RCs > > Which "great modifications"? I mean, you talk about > it like some > "great modifications" were advertized somehow? Sorry I remember reading something on this list back before RC1, it's not quite advertizing. > That's not obvious to me. Packages (programs) > installation has > been simplified in rpmdrake2 (ending up with, among > others, > current two-different-interfaces which is so > critized - even if > it's logical and drastically simplifies the GUI). > Simple > categories are available, good documentation in > powerpack manuals > and online (and even with a clickable "Help" button > now). And we are gratefull for your excellent work. No reason not to continue in that positive way :) > If newbies don't use Packages Installation, I think > it has more > to do with the fact that a computer is frightening > in general - > they won't use other tools as well, outside of > mozilla and > evolution and openoffice, until a trusted computer > literate > friend shows them another one - probably not an > administration > one. > > My proposition > > > > Based on the above observations, I believe that > the > > following should be done: > > > > - There should be a new application named > "Add/Remove > > Programs" > > I fail to see how merging two functionalities would > end up with > an easier tool, whereas this suggestion keeps poping > up. I think > people design interfaces they'd like to use, and > since they are > not newbies, we end up with that suggestion. Well I think the best would be to have separate tabs of the same window (maybe that's your compromise, Danny?) But I could be wrong. The important thing is that one should not be able to uninstall packages with Package Installer, which it is presently. > There would take very much diskspace, especially > screenshots! And > what about the time needed to do all the > screenshots, list plugins.. Well obviously screenshots should be made while packaging. Apart from distributing the workload, this has another benefit of requiring packagers to test their packages. And also, screenshot would be present only for "programs" (e.g. packages that are listed, which usually are rather large anyway). Noone said that screenshots need to be up-to-date! I think most users would be satisfied with something a few versions back. Finally, those screenshot can be low res, as suggested by Olivier. So I could give up on the "Click here to enlarge" part :) then screenshots can be 8-bit PNGs constrained to 200x150 pixels. That shouldn't be larger than 20-30 kB. --- Eric Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Contrib should be easily added by newbies, it is > better to support these > unofficial repositories instead of seeing newbies > trying to install Red > Hat packages from rpmfind. > Also, there is a strong demand for DVD playing, thus > PLF should be > easily added. We know it cannot be done out-of-the > box, but there is no > need to name it (or Gotz suggested that a disclamer > would be enough, > which makes sense) I think this can be handled by adding a reasonable description to each source. So PLF description can be a de facto disclaimer, Cooker description could be a big "consider yourself warned" etc. The only thing left is to make this description more prominent, like e.g. displaying it every time you try to install something from that source (well that's way too much I guess :) --- Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > The problem is that Windows users are used to > getting "free software" > (really "Shareware" or "freeware") by downloading > from obscure sites on > the internet. Maybe if they had Download.com.com in their face they would actually like it better then downloading stuff. The reason why people don't use RpmDrake is because they don't get it. It's too complicated. They don't understand why there is stuff which is not programs, they don't understand the numbers and dashes and stuff, and descriptions tell them nothing cause they are full of specialist terms. Thats what people tell me when I ask them. But they might be lying to me, I don't know... > How? Telepathy? A database. But it's been said already. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
