I lost where this particular thread came in, especially since I posted a message titled "Boot Linux Faster". So at the risk of being repetitive here it is again, since the article seems to address some of the concerns being raised here:
Date: 24/08/2003 3:06 pm Hello, I don't know if any one else saw this article but it seemed very good to me. http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html A chap at IBM Hursley, in the UK, has come up with a way to make Linux boot faster using make. I have not got around to trying it out. However, given the speed that XP now starts up compared to most Linux setups I would think anything to get the boot times down must be good. I responded to this e-mail asking why everything needs to be started at boot time. For example it takes a huge amount of time to get CUPS up and running. Why not defer this until the first print job is required ? It appears that extension of his idea could be to work out which services really need to be started at boot time and which might be deferred. Anyway, food for thought, Owen I was suggesting that CUPS and the like should be started when the first attempt to print, or whatever, is made. I don't know if that is actually possible but it seems to me to be somewhat more elegant than just waiting for 60 seconds. What happens if a print request IS made during that 60s, does it just vanish into the ether ? A follow up post on this thread suggested that XP was spoofing by clever use of changing eye candy. Although this does play a small role XP IS a lot faster at getting to the desktop. Since Linux is making a play for the desktop it cannot be under estimated how important this speed, perceived or otherwise, is with the average punter. I generally find that Window$ users are generally not a forgiving lot, especially when their mental picture / world order is under threat !!! The idea of using any kind of suspend does not address the key issue, neither does the argument that Linux is not designed as a reboot OS. Linux is going to get rebooted and all the more often as it starts to make inroads onto the desktop. Linux is still legal, despite the best efforts of large vested interests and monopolies and their pet US government ! We need to give users a better user experience than M$, or anyone else, and that includes bootup and shutdown. I find it unacceptable to wait 4 minutes, even on my PIII 500. Thanks again, Owen On Friday 31 Oct 2003 3:33 am, Jos wrote: > On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 23:06, guran wrote: > > Is it possible to use swsusp as a regular "halt-susp" > > to get around the need of everyone who thinks that the next second is > > important. > > Otherwise I think that Linux or Unix has other walues than a fast start. > > regards > > guran > > Well... about the fact swsusp is even existing in Mandrake 9.2 I got my own > not so very positive ideas. Of course I tested it, and as expected it > didn't work well. Swsusp is far from mature on linux -and will never be in > 2.4 kernels-. Swsusp is a nice way to prevent a laptop from loosing it's > data when the battery runs out, not a way to reboot a system day in day > out. > > Sorry, but I've had it with the guys who say "Mandrake works fine with me, > so anyone stating otherwise should shut up", and unfortunately there are > far too many of them on this list... > > Jos
