I am a beta tester for Office 10. The products you pay for are the ones that
are almost ready to release, more like a preview version than a beta. The
beta testers receive these also, but do not pay for them. When you buy those
"beta" versions online, they are pretty stable compared to the real beta's
that beta testers get.

Once Office 10 becomes more stable, you will be able to buy a preview
version just like some of the other preview versions.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Foresman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Beta???


> I think what he meant is that the release version of microsoft products
are
> often still in what most would consider a beta state, and have more bugs
> than we know what to do with.  The consumer who pays for the product is
the
> one doing the final beta testing until you have
> win98se+sp1+fixpatch+securityfix+mp7+ie55+ie55 fix etc etc etc.
>
> And Microsoft does charge for betas.  If you receive the betas from MS in
a
> brown envolope, it is probably because you are an MSDN or Technet
> subscriber, or because you have done beta's in the past for them.  But,
for
> all the recent MS betas, you could go to the MS website and PAY for the
beta
> on CD.  This is true for win98, win98se, win2k, and office2k, amoung
others.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Reser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 11:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Beta???
>
>
> > On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 03:02:37PM -0400, Steven R. Hatfield wrote:
> > > Microsoft proudly charges money for this pleasure.
> >
> > While I dislike Microsoft products have beta tested for them in the past
I
> can
> > assure you they not only do *NOT* charge their beta testers.  But they
> actually
> > ship CDs to us on a regular basis.  Comes in a nice little brown
shipping
> > envelope via airborne express for the unintiated.
> >
> > Please don't spread lies or misrepresent things in order to further
Linux.
> It
> > only makes us all looks stupid.
> >
> > --
> > Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > http://ben.reser.org
> >
> > "EXTREMELY SERIOUS WARNING: Unless you are as smart as
> > Johann Karl Friedrich Gauss, savvy as a half-blind Calcutta
> > bootblack, tough as General William Tecumseh Sherman, rich
> > as the Queen of England, emotionally resilient as a Red Sox
> > fan, and as generally able to take care of yourself as the
> > average nuclear missile submarine commander, you should
> > have never been allowed near this document.  Please dispose
> > of it as you would any piece of high-level radioactive waste
> > and then arrange with a qualified surgeon to amputate your
> > arms at the elbows and gouge your eyes from their sockets"
> > - Neal Stephenson, Crytonomicon
> >
> >
>
>


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