The printing frontend XPP need neither KDE nor GNOME stuff to run, the
widgets (buttons, menus, and so on) are built-in. So it needs not more
than its own 210 kB.

QTCUPS, another printing frontend, does not need anything of KDE, but it
needs the QT library for its widgets.

printerdrake uses GTK (the library which is also used by GNOME and GIMP)
for its widgets.

KUPS needs the kdelibs (for its widgets) and kdebase (for kdesu)
installed to work, that's true, but you do not need to run KDE as window
manager. 

All KDE programs work also if you use another window manager. In
addition Mandrake 7.2 has always kdelibs and kdebase installed because
all administration programs depend on kdesu to ask for the root password
if one starts them as normal user. kdesu is part of kdebase.

KUPS is automatically installed when you choose the recommended
installation of 700 MB. In the minimum istallation of 300 MB it is not
installed, but kdelibs and kdebase. So one only needs to add QTCUPS
(which provides some dialogs for KUPS) and KUPS itself.

Don't worry about instabilities of KDE, KUPS never crashed for me, and I
used it sometimes with KDE and sometimes with Sawfish/GNOME as desktop
environment.

In addition you have always the web interface of CUPS
(http://localhost:631/) which one can even use with lynx.

   Till



William H Bouterse wrote:
> 
> Till Kamppeter wrote:
> 
> >
> > If you want to have a really comfortable printer administration program,
> > use kups and not printerdrake.
> 
> I may have missed the clarification awhile back!?
> 
> Is kde on ones system necessary to run a 'cups' GUI i.e. kups ?
> If so it would be nice if there were one that could
> be used for those installs which do not include kde
> as a window manager?
> My older machines are not terribly happy with kde
> and I usually use a less cpu intensive WM on the
> couple that this applies to.
> 
> I can admit my ignorance here readily :)
> 
> William Bouterse
> Talkeetna Alaska

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