> That's a good point too - right now redhat is
> losing a lot of respect and customers,
> customers that will probably rush to mandrake
I really don't think it's going to be the gcc
2.96 issue that makes people rush to Mandrake, I
think it will have more to do with other few
hundred bugs in their 7.0 version.
> because althought it's different and better
> it's still the same. It's fine to maintain a
> redhat like model but to hell with remaining
> compatible.
Mandrake and Red Hat are not the same, please
don't say that. Even though I know you don't
mean identical, there are more and more
differences every version. They aren't "the
same" anymore, they're "similar".
> I hate to think of Mandrake as a lemming of
> Linux distro's when its really something much
> more. In so many way's a pioneer, giving people
> todays technology today with frequent distro
> releases that contain up to date, although
> stable packages (except for KDE2 (1.99) anyhow
> ;) ) But I'm using it and not complaining.
And a ton of people complained about a KDE beta
being included in a release, and Mandrake is
doing it. It's actually possible that the final
will make it in the distro in time. Who knows.
Who's to say that sticking gcc 2.96 in there for
now and swapping it out with 3.0 final won't
happen?
> Redhat losing all this respect could be a
> turning point, time for Mandrake to carry the
> baton for a while. I'm glad to see 7.2 doesn't
> have 2.96, I hope no release will.
I think it's a moot point whether or not 2.96
makes it into a release or not. It won't go in
there in it's present state. They'll patch it.
As I said in another thread a few moments ago..
I think a lot of people are not seeing something
fairly obvious to me.
It does not matter if gcc 3 is out by the time
Mandrake is ready to release another
distribution.
It doesn't.
Plain and simple.
You know why?
Mandrake won't release a seriously broken
distribution. Look at them! Pixel, Chmouel, all
of them, they work their rears off to make sure
the distro works!
I have no clue how many patches they've applied
to however many pieces of software they have in
the distro. You think they're afraid to patch
gcc? NO! They'll add patch after patch, and
even move to 2.97 if needed. They will make sure
that the problems that have recently been
discovered (and that may be discovered over the
next few months) will be fixed BEFORE Mandrake
releases another version.
Why did this even begin, anyway? Cooker is for
development! That's it! If you're running
Cooker on a production machine, you MUST have
suffered some severe head trauma, and should see
a doctor as soon as possible! It's not for every
day use! Don't yell at the package maintainers
for their decisions! They obviously did it for a
reason. I'm not saying don't question their
decisions, but don't go off on them! They have
MUCH better things to do than sit here and listen
to someone go off on them because they don't have
a clue as to what's really going on.
So god damnit, end all these god damn gcc 2.96
hatemail threads now. There's MUCH more
important things to work on, like a 7.2 beta
version that's almost done!
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