On Tuesday 31 October 2000 09:47, you wrote:
> Jason Straight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Tuesday 31 October 2000 07:42, you wrote:
> > > "Matthew R. Sprague" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > > 1. We has to put out this version due to very tight time schedule:
> > > > > WalMart doesn't want any new products on the shelves from 1st of
> > > > > november, until mid january.
> > > >
> > > >         Is this really that important to MandrakeSoft? Don't get caught up
> > > > in allowing Walmart to dictate the terms. What is more important
> > > > stable release or Nov 1st target.  If Walmart won't take it past a
> > > > given date, politely remind them about how well the product is
> > > > selling at Staples. (Yes lie, make up imaginary sales figures,
> > > > whatever).
> > >
> > > Lies? Blah.
> >
> > Lies? Blah.
> > Like selling mandrake 7.2rc1 as 7.2 final isn't?
>
> Fuck it, now!!! What do you want me to say!??? Please read my previous
> explanations. If you think our commercial policy is real bad, please
> unsub-scribe from any of our mailing lists and stop using Mandrake.

No, that's totally missing the point. That's what we do with Microsoft and
why we chose linux in the first place. I like Mandrake, and I've used about
every computer OS and distro ever made and Mandrake 7.2 gives me more of what
I ever wanted than anything I have ever used, and consumers trying to voice
opinion's to help preserve the goodness that is Mandrake-Linux shouldn't be
told Fuck it. If I didn't care what happened at Mandrake I would be telling
you that, and I would have moved on to debian already. I care enough about
what happens to the distro and the Image of Mandrake from something like this
to take the time to write about it, nothing more.

I realize you have deadlines to meet and people to pay - like I said in my
other post I used to be a manager of Wal-Mart, so I know when it comes to
running a business that in reality the $ does come first. If you have no $'s
you have no people, and if you have no people you have no product to get $'s.

But when it comes to the products image being jeopardized I hope you guys
made the right decision. Hopefully there won't be a big stink about the fact
that the shelf version that people fork out $25 for isn't as good as the
version they can dl for free. Next time around you might release the full
code only to find out too many people won't want it because they will think
they are getting less for $25 than what they could get for nothing.

I've said all I am going to say negatively about this, I am not going to
waste more time complaining, I've said my piece about it and it's done, what
you guys decide to do from this point on is your choice, I can only offer my
opinions and hope that they shed light on some ideas, so you know how your
customers feel. Imagine if you never heard from your customers like me, and
your sales just started dropping to the floor for no apparent reason you
wouldn't what was wrong and what to fix.

Anyway - good work on 7.2, the real final version. I love it, as I have all
Mandrakes from 6.0.

In the future maybe a different versioning system would help alleviate this
also. 7.00 might be on the shelf at Wal-Mart while 7.01 on ftp. At least
something on the box so no one can claim they were lied to.



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Movie: The Sixth Sense
"I see dumb people... they're everywhere.
They walk around like everyone else.
They don't even know that they're dumb."

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