I agree with that. Also I wouldn't mind giving money to mandrake on their website.

Mark Hillary

> Well, nice start for a Wednesday morning, mailbox full of shity
> emails from *not very nice so called disatisfied* customer and
> frankly I am disgusted by their behaviour.
> 
> Ok, the final 7.2 version you bought is missing some updates
> present in the downloadable version and you think you are
> screwed... fair enough but why so much anger towards the guys
> at Mdk?
> What is so difficult in using Mdk-update to get your installation
> updated with the packages from the Mdk 7.2 download edition?
> Do you need a university degree to do that? Does it ruin your
> day because you have to download a few megabytes of data?
> What is your pbm?
> 
> The guys at Mandrake go out of their way to provide everybody
> with a great linux distro, they listen to all of us when we
> bitch about packages missing or when we ask them to package
> more programs and so on. And you know what, they do it because
> they're a nice bunch of developers dedicated to linux and its
> success.
> As a matter of fact, they also need to bring the bacon back
> home so to speak and for that very valid reason they also
> need to make money and sell their stuff.
> (something else I want to point out is that it seems to me
> that more and more people see the *free software* as *free
> beer* not *free speech* and I am worried about that,
> anyway that's not the point here...)
> We all would like to pay a dirt cheap price for the perfect
> product, bug free that does everything and more with free
> support... but that does not exist even in the Linux world.
> 
> The pbm is mandrakesoft is a victim of its openness, they
> tell us to much and we still bitch about it. Not so long
> ago we bitched about M$ for not telling us anything, like
> "we put alpha quality software in our windows crap".
> We put updates whenever it pleases us and we do not care
> if our product is full of fucking security holes! And we
> charge you an arm and a leg for all that crap!
> How on earth can you come even remotely close to comparing
> Mandrakesoft to M$?!?!?
> You're upset? Ok, calm down, get a cup of coffee then try
> to rationalize your situation... then click on the
> "Mandrake Update" icon... then just come back on this list
> and tell everybody how great this distro is 8-)
> I hope good decisions will come out of this minor (?)
> tragedy and that lessons will be learned for the future.
> 
> Linux distro will always be more up-to-date by downloading
> them instead of buying a packaged version for the simple
> reason the work to do to put a downloadable version is so
> much simpler than for a retail version. That's a fact, just
> accept it.
> 
> OK, now I need to think about some serious business which
> is to find a ftp site to download 7.2 :-) can't wait.
> 
> *************
> 
> The idea about being able to give a donation online to support
> Mandrakesoft is a great idea. I would definitely be willing to
> give some money for a download version.
> 
> Also keep up the superb work you have doing so far. Maybe just
> make sure next year you do not plan a release too close to the
> Walmart deadline :-) 
> 
> Fred "very happy to use whatever flavor of Mandrake distro"
> 
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