On Wednesday 07 March 2001 09:56, you wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Prana wrote:
> >And in 8.0 there's an install option that asks them about what services
> >they want to run. For God's sake, they're Windows-convert users, how can
>
> Like I said, the only question which I want to hear is:
> "Do you like to run SSH daemon to permit logins from the network?"

If you're installing as a desktop, all services should be off.  If you're 
installing as a server, then services might be considered to be on, but 
xinetd not started by default.  There is no reason to start services that are 
not used.  None.  Repeat after me - do not start a service that will not be 
used.
>
> What comes to Aurora, amd, anacron, atd, harddrake, etc, etc,
> I'm not sure what do with them. Any ideas?

You can safely remove Aurora - it's cute at boot time but serves no other 
useful purpose.  You hopefully won't be booting much anyway.

anacron is only useful if your system is not on all the time and you want to 
run cron jobs after the system comes back up.  If the person is installing a 
desktop, they might want it on.  For servers, it's a strong possibility that 
the system is always on, so anacron should not even be installed.

> This brings us to the next question. Why the installer has to install
> all the services, even if I don't need them? Those servers should
> not be installed, because if they are not there in the first place,
> they cannot be exploited either.

A couple of very good cases are uucp and inn.  Seriously, why install them in 
the first place?  Those who know what to do with them will know that they 
need to be installed.  You'll never find a neophyte that just decided that 
putting up an inn server and getting a full feed from his buddy is a good 
idae.

> BTW: why do I have wu-ftpd, proftpd (added by myself), tftp-server and
> anonftp installed at the same time?

tftp is another service that should never be installed by default.  anonftp 
only by special request.  If you've installed proftpd, uninstall wu-ftpd - 
those two can not be used at the same time.

> >course it is, since it includes stuff like GIMP, XMMS, etc. However,
> >I've personally never used stuff useless stuff like xmame and xmess
> >which takes a lot of hard-drive space and they're in the default
> >selection of install. I never run tin, xrn, or other old and ugly news
>
> Agreed too.

Yup.  If the user is installing KDE, let them use knode.  If they decide to 
install another application like tin or xrn, let them do it manually.

        .../Ed

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Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
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