Hi all,

There has been no response to my msg on the expert list; maybe due to the
newness of 8.1...

Does anyone have any idea what would cause 8.1 to refuse to allow userids
created on 7.2 (or prior) to login to X...?  (see forwarded msg below)

Some new 8.1 issues...

I am currently out of town and trying to install 8.1 on an older system
which has a flaky CD drive.  I can copy the CDs to HD; but can't install
from the CD because it fails part way through with "busy" status from the
CD...  maybe the error recovery could use some tweaking...?

Another problem was when I resized /home (hdc7: 15G+ & last partition) to
make room for a new / and /usr so that I could keep 7.2...  the resize
appeared to work; but fdisk reported the resized partition as 11864632
blocks; but df reported it as only 3420672 blocks...  I was able to
recover it by copying all the files from hdc7 to hdc9, running mkfs on
hdc7 and copying all the files back.  Here's the partition table after
everything was fixed (sorry, I was in init 1 to fix it and forgot to keep
a copy of the discrepency):
Disk /dev/hdc: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 39703 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdc1   *         1      1015    511528+  83  Linux
/dev/hdc2          1016     39703  19498752    5  Extended
/dev/hdc5          1016      1522    255496+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hdc6          1523      7617   3071848+  83  Linux
/dev/hdc7          7618     31158  11864632+  83  Linux
/dev/hdc8         31159     32149    499432+  83  Linux
/dev/hdc9         32150     39703   3807184+  83  Linux

Thanks,
Pierre

PS: I was very tired when I posted the following -- 8.1 is otherwise very
impressive!!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 12:52:34 -0400
From: Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mandrake Expert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LM8.1 woes...

Between loads of work, marital changes, more travel, etc., I haven't had time to
participate in Cooker...  now, I'm regretting not being involved; but I doubt I
would have done much Cooker on this particular system...

Where to start...?

System:  ASUS/PII/400MHz, G200, SB PCI128, 3c509 & 3C59X (3COM), SCSI AHA-1520

CDRW: hdc/scd0 (ide-scsi)
CD:   hdd
HDs:  IDE(hda, hdb, hde), SCSI(sda, sdb, sdc, sdd) configured thus:
# df
Filesystem      1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hde5          495845    124123    346122  27% /
none               514316         0    514316   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hde6         2015984   1712980    200596  90% /usr
/dev/hda5          295564    109361    170943  40% /mnt/LM7.2root
/dev/hdb1          297603         3    282230   1% /hd/b1
/dev/hdb3         1585000   1145238    357837  77% /hd/b3
/dev/hdb6         9121903   7401445   1247254  86% /hd/b6
/dev/hde2        16126420   3136160  12171060  21% /hd/e2
/dev/hde3        14788180    449988  13586980   4% /hd/e3
/dev/hde7          495876        13    470262   1% /hd/e7
/dev/hde8         2015984        20   1913556   1% /hd/e8
/dev/hde9          495876        13    470262   1% /hd/e9
/dev/hde10        2015544        20   1913140   1% /hd/e10
/dev/hda7         6151076   4839340    999276  83% /home
/dev/sda1         1007880    374764    581920  40% /mnt/LM7.2var
/dev/sda2         1057252    500976    502568  50% /sd/a2
/dev/sdc1          495666    185303    284764  40% /sd/c1
/dev/sdd1          325154     97296    211066  32% /sd/d1
/dev/hda6         3020140   1545392   1321332  54% /mnt/LM7.2usr
/dev/hdb5         2970455   2260594    556244  81% /usr/local
/dev/scd0          663968    663968         0 100% /mnt/cdrom
$ cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: SEAGATE  Model: ST32151N         Rev: 0284
  Type:   Direct-Access                    ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00
  Vendor: SEAGATE  Model: ST31230N         Rev: 0300
  Type:   Direct-Access                    ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00
  Vendor: ARCHIVE  Model: VIPER 150  21247 Rev: -005
  Type:   Sequential-Access                ANSI SCSI revision: 01
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00
  Vendor: EXABYTE  Model: EXB-8500SMBANXH0 Rev: 0428
  Type:   Sequential-Access                ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 04 Lun: 00
  Vendor: TOSHIBA  Model: MK2428FB         Rev: C08B
  Type:   Direct-Access                    ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00
  Vendor: UMAX     Model: Astra 2400S      Rev: V1.4
  Type:   Scanner                          ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00
  Vendor: IBM      Model: H2344-S4C        Rev: S6A0
  Type:   Direct-Access                    ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: HP       Model: CD-Writer+ 7500  Rev: 1.0a
  Type:   CD-ROM                           ANSI SCSI revision: 02

So what could go wrong in such a simple config...?  :^)

I recently added a 40G drive (hde), and partitioned it to handle up to 3 distros
hde[5-10].

So...  just install LM8.1 onto hde[56] and all should be good...  NOT!

The install itself went reasonably smoothly...  in fact, quite nice...  I chose
expert and high security since I'm running several servers.

Then, time to reboot...

1. MBR:  no existing choices were picked up from hda5, so no way to boot into
old LM7.2 since I get a kernel panic after adding that choice to LILO... (still
investigating, though 8.1 looks good enough to let 7.2 go)

2. had to specify mem=1024M on lilo; system only saw 896M -- was OK on LM7.2

3. Pre-8.1 userids can't login via X:  Created only one user ("installer") to
avoid usual uid/gid collisions, and userid:uid and group:gid alterations (see
http://pfortin.com/Linux/chog.html where I discussed this issue at the time I
installed LM7.2).

Then, added my 12 existing users to /etc/{passwd,shadow,group}...   when I tried
to login as myself, X would simply shutdown and restart into the login screen.
This is still not resolved -- indications point to xauth problems; but nothing
I've tried fixes it...  workaround is to login with 8.1 created userid and su to
mine...  :^P

Tried to start old userids on :1 with no luck...  only LM8.1 created userids
work...  actually, one of the LM7.2 userids did work *once*; it had no
.Xauthority and no .xauth/...  tried deleting these from my userid; but this
won't work either...  Maybe one day I'll finally figure out how to seamlessly
migrate existing userids to new distros...

Also checked the ~/{.bashrc,.profile}, /etc/{bashrc,profile} files for changes
between 7.2 and 8.1...

I can start another X desktop using the 8.1 created userid with "startx -- :1"
(both :0 & :1 using same or different *8.1-created* userid); but trying a 7.2
(or earlier) created userid gives a failure on "access /var/lock/console/<user>"
which does not exist; plus:

> $ cat .xsession-errors
> ksplash: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3: cannot open 
>shared object file: No such file or directory
> kdeinit: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3: cannot open 
>shared object file: No such file or directory
> ksmserver: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
> connect() failed: : No such file or directory

4. The "First Time Wizard" is a royal pain...
4a.  got to the Mail setup, chose nothing and clicked Next which goes through
the Network stuff...  click Finish and you're put back into the Mail stuff,
looping ad nauseum...
4b.  why does this beast go through everything for EACH user...?  Surely the
network stuff is not likely to change per user...

5. Software installer is pre-alpha...!  The initial problem appeared to be
simple:  not releasing the CD...  ha!
It doesn't even ask for the appropriate CD before closing the drive only to find
it's not there, or the wrong one....   then, if the wrong CD is in the drive, it
asks for the right CD; but refuses to unlock the drive; instead, it opens the
OTHER drive....  notice that my CDROM is hdD and CD-RW is hdC(scd0)...   Tried
multiple times to install ethereal; but the CD handling code is thoroughly
confused!  Finally gave up and installed modules with "rpm -ivh"...   I won't
mention the "bad English" at this time... :>

5a.  I must've missed the discussions why fstab created cdrom/cdrom2 while /dev
contains cdrom, cdrom0, cdrom1...(?)

6. The Sound Blaster PCI-128 worked fine on LM7.2 and I have another on my LM8.0
machine which works fine...  sndconfig claims that this card is not
supported...!  Do I have to boot kernel 2.2...?


SORRY for the brain fart; but I've been up most of the night on this and would
greatly appreciate some ideas on fixing the pre-8.1 userid logins (item #3)...

Thanks!
Pierre

PS:  This is a GREAT distro for a new install...  it appears to need a bit of
work for migrating existing users...  I don't see anything major, so a few
updates should suffice.  QUITE pleased with it otherwise!


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