On Fridayen den 9 November 2001 14.07, kons Richard Bown wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I d be very suprised if the problems were related  to elctrolytics caps
> on the motherboard,
> there's no new technology with making them these days and they are
> pretty reliable, in that type of use...
> BUT
>
>
> the most unreliable place to put them is in switch mode power supplies,
> this is where they will dry out agive problems, crashes in the night can
> be caused by line transients, esecially in urban areas. often caused by
> the supply company switching sources,
> electrolyte caps wont do anything about line surges, unless they are for
> periods of greater than 100 mSec.
>
> I would be more inclined to put line transient protection on the supply
> to the pc, and maybe if your really worried, change the switchmode PSU
> in the pc, there only about $20.
> Definalty do not try to change ant thru hole component on a motherboard
> unless you know
> how to work with multilayer pcb's, and have some understanding of ESD
>
>
> HTH but probally caused more confusion.

Not at all.

The most ultimate solution I was about to implement a couple of years ago but 
didn't for some reason was a car PSU, a car battery and a charger. Clean 
power and a sort of UPS function too, very neat except it's quite costy.

Where I live there's problem all the time with transients, the light's 
flashing constantly, it's a miracle my PSU:s haven't gone up in smoke yet. 
It's just a couple of kilometers to the nearest powerplant (Akkats, 1,9km 
above the arctic circle;)). I wouldn't be surprised if the AC power differs 
between 220 - 240 volts here... I don't even trust the grounded outlets 
either.. 

A good middleware solution would be a device where you have the power from 
the outlet galvanically(?) separated from the PSU, but that's quite costy 
too... I don't know the english name of that sort of device, sorry. I use 
these in studio and also on stage sometimes to isolate hum (ground loops) 
because the ground is too dirty(!). (I'm a sound technician from time to 
time...)

I wouldn't dare solder my motherboard ;)

I think the most problems are becasue of ESD shocks, and these suckers will 
hopefully show immediately, but often after a couple of years.

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