Thank god some common sense is appearing at last

Thank you Leon

br richard
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 01:07, Leon Brooks wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 March 2002 22:51, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
> > It is development list. People are expected to debug there problems and
> > come here with at least suggestions what has to be done to fix them not
> > coming here ranting and wining. There are enough other places for it. Or
> > at least report problems in such way that makes it possible to track
> > them down (not that I am always doing it this way myself :-)
> 
> 1. a report that there *is* a problem is more useful even with no hint
>    of a fix than no report; and
> 
> 2. having to put up with 90% spurious reports is better than a release
>    with a showstopper; and
> 
> 3. How on earth do you expect to have more developers (who qualify as
>    such in your eyes) on this list if you discourage the budding ones
>    before they really get started?; and
> 
> 4. IIRC, in the open source world at least, lists are here for helping
>    people, and the best way to do that is to educate people rather than
>    simply telling them off; and
> 
> 5. Many of the people who report to this list have no time, resources
>    or specific skills to contribute much more than they do; and
> 
> 6. A tight feedback loop is a key part of producing excellent software;
>    and
> 
> 6. [Guillame please note] even patches and stuff which seem irrelevant
>    to the majority, such as the LVM-on-/ one recently discussed, may
>    be useful to *someone*, and so their posting should be encouraged
>    for that reason alone; and
> 
> 7. Open Source is a funny place where the minority are in the majority,
>    or in other words, the flexibility and availability of the software
>    makes it *possible* (nobody sane claims `easy') for *everyone* to
>    get what they want out of it, even if they don't happen to fall near
>    the ephemeral `mainstream'; and
> 
> 8. Who made you list moderator?
> 
> So... please go easy on the newbies, please encourage reports even if they 
> don't meet your high standards, please acknowledge reports that are useful to 
> you, please patiently educate rather than browbeating, or at least hold your 
> peace.
> 
> Cheers; Leon
> 



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