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Le Samedi 03 Ao�t 2002 23:11, Igor Izyumin a �crit :
> On Saturday 03 August 2002 12:33 pm, huug wrote:
> > That's not the issue. There needs to be a small editor in /bin for
> > emergency repairs, and newbees are more likely to cause
> > such.
This post has a wrong title. It should be called
"Newbies should not have access to root password"
This way, they will not mess with their system, and will not need any
baby-sitter editor in /bin.
> > Besides, old hacks surely can put their vi|emacs there
> > themselfs: that's not something a distro maker has to do for them.
You clearly don't understand.
If our newbie with root password has crashed his distro in a way he can't load
/usr I'm one of the guys he will call to clear the mess. If he took a Unix
course somewhere he certainly had learn about vi (I do learn it when I give
formations). If he doesn't know this, I prefer to let him without any mean to
do more damages.
Even Emacs gurus know that vi is THE editor you can always expect on any Unix.
Sometimes you get only tiny, sometimes vim. You curse tiny, but you can bring
back your system with it. Any system.
> How about both?
Scalable man says "basesystem is too big already, get grub out".
> Is there really not enough room for another small editor?
Script it in on your systems. You'll have it for life. No three months
reinstall here.
> I completely agree with you: Mandrake is a newbie-oriented distributions
No, Mandrake is general-oriented distribution, newbies included.
> and very few newbies know how to use VI.
Ask for a locale of the vim tutorial or submit it.
> It looks like the author of the
> rant never had to help someone fix their lilo.conf or do some repair over
> the phone. Try explaining how to use VI to a newbie...
Before or after he learned the names of the keys ?
> Hell, I've been
> using Linux for 3-something years now and the only editor I know how to use
> is Pico. I can make some emergency repairs with VI, but it really ticks me
> off.
Think to script.
CU
CPHIL
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