I have to say I'm 50/50 on the dual rpmdrake idea. But yes, either fix the new one or include the old one.
I think Mandrake is the best distro in the world but I think they don't realize their biggest fault: They make their most devoted users angry. Seriously. Many newbies throw around strange insults about Mandrake being unstable and other weird things, but the more serious users often complain about either: 1. Throwing in new features right before a release (post-alpha) and not giving them time to mature (many drak's in the v8 and now v9 releases for example). Why do you have to wait so late in introduce new utilities or features? Look how upset we are about rpmdrake! Can you make us happy by release-time? 2. Rushing the beta testing and/or releasing the final before WE think it's ready. I realize that WE are not the experts, but WE are the people buying, supporting, and promoting something that we KNEW had bugs before it was released. I don't want this to turn into a Debian style turtle-speed-distro (hehe), but already I feel like 9.0 is going to be released before it sounds "polished," much like 8.1. 3. Difficulty in reporting bugs. This is the least serious, and it is getting better. This list is great. Bugzilla... not so great. Newbies sometimes ignored rather than educated and encouraged. Good riddance. (is that a joke? :-) ) So my point (perhaps blown out of proportion now) is that it's your company and you can do things your way, but PLEASE ponder points 1 and 2 because you've got a great community fanbase, and sometimes you piss us off. :-) Austin On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 20:32, David Grant wrote: > To Mandrake Users and Developers, > > I propose that the old rpmdrake be salvaged from wherever it is now, and > it can be called rpmdrake. The new stuff should be a new piece of > software, and I think that perhaps it should be combined with whatever > used to be called "Mandrake Update" to form a new "Mandrake Update2" > (with enhancements). "Mandrake Update" was always sort of a rinky-dink > thing anyways, sort of a copy of Redhat's update utility, great for > newbie's who want to update a few packages from Mandrake's > Updates/Errata directory on the mirrors, but sort of limited for > medium-to-power users. It could benefit from a few extra features, and > still remain easy to use for newbie users. If what I propose is done, > there will be 2 pieces of software: > > 1) rpmdrake: a full-featured front-end to urpmi/rpm/whatever, just like > the rpmdrake that shipped with 8.2 > > 2) Mandrake Update: the same old Mandrake Update PLUS an "Install New > Software" section which allows newbies to install any software from > their CDs, and allows them to select a mirror if they are adventurous > enough (which they can do through the "Add Sources" area). It will also > allow them to remove software through the "Remove Software" section. Of > course these 4 options will all be accessible with large pretty-looking > buttons in a single main-frame GUI. Clicking on one of the 4 buttons > will open a new panel/dialog. This is an alternative to have 4 menu > entries. > > If you don't feel like making a formal reply to this, please reply with > +1 in the first line of the body if you think this is a good idea, or a > -1 in the first line of the body if you think this is a bad idea for > whatever reason. (This is used frequently on OpenOffice mailing lists > and I find it works quite well in some cases). > > Cheers, > David Grant >
