On Wednesday 21 August 2002 10:18 pm, Ben Reser wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 07:15:37PM -0400, allen wrote: > > http://www.prismnet.com/~aef/index2.html > > http://hogwash.sourceforge.net > > I'm not actually trying to promote these things for this purpose at this > > time, I am just saying that this issue is really not "impossible".
> First of all your examples are all things that manipulate iptables rules > and require a lot of setup to make work on the users perspective. > Comparing that to something that is going to (without an user > intervention) modify procmail rules and not cause an interaction (and > procmail is rife with interactiosn) is silly. Yes and no. You are actually assuming quite a lot here. Seriously, humbly. ( I would take this part off-line and post a summary, can be a while off topic ) > But that's beside the point. It's a waste of Mandrake's time because > the *correct* way of implementing this is providing hooks in the client > and the server. Whatever. I'm not suggesting anything other than the fact that it is not impossible ;) > This will probably happen sooner or later and Mandrake > would spend a lot of time and energy implementing something that: a) > would break for a lot of people and b) will become obsolete when the > clients do implement the hooks. I understand and yes, no reason not to have the right hooks in the right places. However there is also no reason to have to have what you might consider "enterprise" or "edge-level" rules administered in each and every application throughout your network... Thus there are things that can make a pervasive difference from a single vantage.... even just a single machine... Things like hogwash. > So it's just not worth the time. IPTables is installed on my beta 3. Conceptually I'd need just one rule iptables -A input -j QUEUE Plus the rpm -ivh of a hogwash-iptables.rpm or rather "by" such an rpm. Like... squid, snort, etc., Time is money. If there's a market, your bank account would argue with you. But then, I'm not even suggesting that there might be thousands or even millions of people and businesses of all sizes with a spam problem... ;) -AEF
