On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Jason Straight wrote: > On Saturday 28 September 2002 04:21 pm, Wes Kurdziolek wrote: > > If these issues are so important to you, why don't you find out what RH > > does different and submit a patch? > > I hate hearing that response, sounds like something microsoft would say if > they did open source. Not everyone can or has the time to learn their way > around a project written by someone else just to fix every bug they find. > > This guy should be listened to, not told to go fix it, if he really has done > his part in reporting the bugs during the beta process and they haven't been > addressed we (as open source community/developers) should be looking at how > we could do better to follow up on stuff like this later. I'm sure he can't > be the only guy with the problems and fixing them will only make Mandrake > even better. Let's be glad that even with these shortcomings that he still > chooses Mandrake, there's a lot to be said there. People like him are the > customers that Mandrake needs to be able to fund itself in the future, a > loyal user is often a loyal evangelist. >
AFAICR, the issue with his NIC was resolved to be an upstream change for the driver by the maintainer. Nothing was herad back afterwards, so either he went off to mail the maintainer, or he dropped it. Unfortunately, if issues like this come up late in the beta testing, they are difficult to resolve, since there are only so many kernels yuo can go through during beta ... > I have the same problem with switching between consoles and X and VMWare, I > also had a problem with my Radeon 7500 causing X to come up as a nothing more > than a black screen at boot. I was able to communicate to Vladimir, with the > gatos devel crew, and he fixed the problem with the 7500 causing blank > startups, for whatever reason he didn't seem too interested in fixing the > switching between console and X issue, which by the way has been brought up > time and time again on the gatos lists, and quite a few people aren't happy > about it. While this isn't Mandrakes fault did anyone take the time to tell > Robert that he should contact Vladimir, or direct him to the gatos mail > lists, or even better yet see what redhat was doing different - I mean after > all they are almost a linux distro, so there's a possibility we could learn 1 > or 2 things from them. > I am not sure if this is related to the problems with the Radeon 7500, which I took a fair look at. Knoppix (fastest way to test another distro) worked fine on the machine, with decent fps numbers in gears. RH 7.3 worked fine, also with 3d. Mandrake 9.0RC2 (AFAICR), died with a blank screen, until I managed to install RH7.3's X on to the box. XFdrake then configured it just fine, and I had working 3d also,. I didn't do extensive testing, since it wasn't my box. Renaming /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/multimedia/theatre_drv.o als fixed things in Mandrake 9.0RC2. Buchan -- |----------------Registered Linux User #182071-----------------| Buchan Milne Mechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work +27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
