On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:49:01 -0500 "Palmer, Hilary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The desktop/user interface is looking real good for this version. > > But some of the good old faithful terminal utilities and documentation are > not there anymore. A utility such as C-Kermit has no replacement for it, > that I have found, included in the distro. The man pages seem to be missing > information as well. Before if I would enter something like "man -k rsh" I > would get all kinds of stuff, now I get nothing. (and yes I ran makewhatis) > > I do understand that you are trying to make it "user-friendly" and not as > confusing to a newbie, but don't strip items out that have been shipped with > the distro for years. > > Unless I am just talking out of my a$$. I wouldn't say that, but the issue with licences has been well ventilated. Also, the older commands are being killed off because they are fundamentally insecure. I don't know anything about kermit security but, for example, rsh (+ rlogin + telnet) is infamously insecure; ssh is a secure and far superior replacement. I think removing such poor-quality* utilities is a _good_ thing as it encourages people to upgrade servers running those old services: if you see a server running them, complain rather than shoot the messenger! Alastair * they might not have seemed so at the time but, 10 years ago, the Internet was far smaller and running a server of any sort at home, for example, was an improbable thing to do.
