Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

[Vincent Danen]

On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 10:20 PM, David Walser wrote:

[...]

You're quite anal about your opinions, no?  Are you
trying to imply
that a standard X cut-n-paste works better in KDE
than GNOME?  Funny...
I highlight and middle click in GNOME also.

That makes 3 people not paying attention and jumping
in the middle of a conversation.  C'mon Vincent,
surely you have better things to do (I know you do,
I've seen some of your great work) than jump in here
criticising me.

You're right... I didn't follow the entire thread... I do have better things to do. I've been skimming it. I wasn't directly criticising you, exactly, just this thread. It's about the silliest thing I read in a long time.

Actually, I find this whole thread quite
laughable...  we're arguing
over one click vs. two?  Sheesh... Juan needs to

Unfortunately little details are important..., but
hey, the fact that they are says a lot about how far
we've come.  We've got the major issues solved, and
now we're fighting over the little issues striving for
the perfect desktop OS :D

True... but I think you're missing the point. This single vs. double clicking is, I think, completely configurable. If it isn't, then it should be. I'd suggest leaving the defaults as they are... default. If someone wants to change them, they should feel free. I used to think that having a single mouse button on my macs was retarded... I don't mind it so much now. But I haven't gone and changed my Linux machines to single click... primarily because it doesn't really matter to me. I think most people are in the same boat.

release a really
shitty system-breaking kernel so that people
actually talk about
worthwhile things.

Didn't he?  :o)

Ummm... no comment on that one. 17mdk seems to work pretty good on my cooker box... =)

Ok, this is *really* laughable.  You think GNOME is
more similar to
windows than KDE?  What kinda pot you been smoking?
Care to share?
KDE is the biggest Windows wanna-be out there!  One
reason I *don't*
run KDE is because it reminds me too much of
windows.  Even KDE3 is too
close to windows for my liking.

Hmm, well we'll have to trade drugs sometime...?

I guess... =) The reason I use GNOME is because it isn't like windows... the reason I refuse to use KDE is for the same reason... it smacks too much of windows for me. I guess different people, more familiar with their preferred desktop, feel differently.

If you want to move on to something better, use
Enlightenment.  Or
WindowMaker.  If you're trying to move onto
something better, in terms
of look and overall UI, than windows, you really
need to stop using KDE.

hehe

=)

Sorry... had to interject.  I've been trying hard
not to laugh too much
at this silly thread, but this one almost made me
pee my pants.

just watch your computer, hopefully you have good
offsite backups :D

Ever hear Adam Sandler's world's longest pee? I'm not quite that bad... =)

What happened to the good old days when people
actually discussed
useful stuff on this mailing list?  It's depressing
to see what the
list has been reduced to.

Well, like I said, I think it just means we're getting
there.

I think it means we're nitpicking. As far as I'm concerned, we're already there. To me, it doesn't matter which desktop you use, it's still more functional and more customizable than Windows. It's better looking than Windows. It "feels" better than windows. The single click vs. double click is irrelevant, I think, because it is customizable. It's like going from windows to a Mac... you used to have to live with what you got. You don't have to do that anymore.

On a related note, the problem with discussing
*useful* stuff is nobody seems to care.  We try to
discuss useful stuff and it just doesn't happen.  More
complicated technical questions get asked, and nobody
answers.  Only simple (non-useful to you maybe) stuff
like this generates lively discussions.  I do think
that is depressing.

That I do agree with. While I wish I could take the time to answer every worthwhile technical question on this list, it's just impossible. I try to know a little bit about everything, and excel in some areas that interest me. And while I'd like to do more things, like LDAP integration, more security tools and enhancements, etc. (which are things I'm interested in), the time issue is of prime importance. I think others probably feel the same way. The problem with a list like cooker is that it's too general... you can discuss anything you want, provided it's relevant to cooker. And what's cooker? A few thousand different software packages. One would have to basically know everything to be able to contribute to everything on cooker. You may have a few folks proficient with Apache, others with Squid, others with KDE, etc. but trying to get everyone talking on the same wavelength is often difficult. While I don't think splitting cooker into multiple sub-lists that are more centered to specific apps or specific *types* of applications might encourage lively discussion amongst similarly-minded individuals, I think that would break what cooker is.

I guess there's no way around it. I certainly wouldn't want to see Mandrake provide the same plethora of mailing lists that Debian does (you know, one list for every app it seems like), but it might be worth while to think of diversifying the lists somewhat. Consider that a personal observation.

And no, David, this isn't directly an attack on you,
so please don't
take it as such.  I just found your message far too
amusing to pass up.
  =)

Well, being called anal *could* be taken as a
compliment...  :o)

hehehe... well, my dad probably would.. but then, he's an IT department manager, so I think anal is part of the job description... =)

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