On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:14:43PM +0000, Stephen Pickering wrote: > Brian J. Murrell wrote: > > >On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 07:48:38PM +0000, Stephen Pickering wrote: > > > > > >>I'd like rpmdrake & urpmi to have an option to list updates that are > >>over say 'n' > >>days old, a command line switch for urpmi, eg: > >> > >> urpmi --available_for 5 > >> > >>I've found that sometimes an rpm is released and it screws the system, a > >>few > >>hours or days later a new rpm is released which cures the problem. > >> > >> > >Yeah, I would like this. I would use it for production releases as > >well, not just keeping a bit of distance from bleeding edge Cooker. > > > >>BTW: rpmdrake is what sways most people to change to Mandrake from the > >>likes > >>of RH. > >> > >> > >Yeah? I am not disputing this fact but am interested in why people do > >switch. If you can, please cite the source of the data that backs > >this statement up. > >
> Personal experience, This is not really a "personal attack" but your "personal experience" is hardly a valid dataset to posit what "most people" are doing, no? > I've shown a couple of people my system or managed to > persuade them to install Mandrake on a new system and there hooked. This > applies to people I know personally and people thru the company usenet > groups. Again, hardly a dataset to make statements about "most people". > Gentoo ? I have not looked in detail at Gentoo but I understand their general mode of operation. There is no reason they could not have achieved the same results using .rpm rather than .deb. > > I think the following is a good read: > > http://www.distrowatch.com/article-rpm.php Most of that is anti-RPM biased FUD, IMO. I have dealt with RPM for many many years and have had only 1 incident of issue, when I interrupted an RPM installation in process and lost the database. That is one incident in many many years and many many many upgrades. In fact I have moved several of my machines from one RPM distribution to another -- both Mandrake Cooker and whatever the current Mandrake release was at the time to TurboLinux on several machines (when I worked at TL) back to Mandrake Cooker and the subsequently released versions of Mandrake Linux -- all without incident. I have most recently used urpmi to move from 8.2 to 9.0 much the way deb-heads like to brag about upgrading their distros. The last time I did an actual fresh install was the first time I install all these boxes I have here. They have _always_ been upgraded using RPM and urpmi. But lets drop it here, please. If you like .deb, that is great. Choice is the reason we are all fans of OpenSource right? But let's not start pounding the "Mandrake should use .debs" drum yet again. It's boring and tedious. b. -- Brian J. Murrell
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