Le jeu 16/01/2003 � 11:55, Pascal LACROIX a �crit : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Le Jeudi 16 Janvier 2003 09:58, Adam Williamson a �crit : > > On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 05:03, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 15:01, Edward Tandi wrote: > > > > Could it be? > > > > > > > > http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=192 > > > > > > > > What does it mean? > > > > > > It means that they have some breathing room and clearance from their > > > debtors so that they can continue business as almost normal. It also > > > means that we need to buckle down and try to make this company some > > > money any way we can. > > As french, suggest Mandrake to be more present in shop and distributors. > realy think it's also one problem they should work around. > For the moment i had hardly walked arround to find LM distro. > Be that understand, soft business run also by soft distributors next to your > home. > > As that, LM will touch others peoples, those who could discover Linux. > LM is not for "gourou" but for a large soft users population, and should be > pushed out of it apparent confidenciality. > Realy in France, Mandrake should work hardly in that way in order to save > more money. > > > > > I really don't understand this position. > > > > MandrakeSoft is a commercial software company. It ought to be able to be > > profitable (or at least not burn cash so fast it gets near bankruptcy) > > through normal business operations. If not, it deserves to fail. This is > > the logic of capitalism, the system MandrakeSoft decided to exist under. > > Live by the sword, die by the sword. I'm not about to give my money to a > > failing business simply to keep it alive, there are charities which are > > in far more deserving need of it. > > > > I use Mandrake Linux because it's an excellent distribution. I also know > > that, thanks to the nature of free software, the distribution is not the > > company. If MandrakeSoft does fail...so what? Mandrake is still there, > > the entire source code is in the open, as is the development process. > > There's nothing at all to prevent development continuing, either along > > Debian lines or through the formation by the Mandrake developers of a > > new company with new financing, which would be free of the large debts > > and obligations which are currently held by MandrakeSoft, thanks to the > > crappy business decisions of the dot.com boom era. > > > > > They have bought time in order to probably get the Mandrake club > > > fortified with subscriptions, amoung other things (deals coming down the > > > pipe that won't mature for awhile), so that they won't be throttled to > > > death while they are running for the finish line. > > > > This is the line MandrakeSoft has been feeding its customers for a while > > now - "this is just a temporary problem, the rosy future is just around > > the corner! No, actually, we lied, it's just around this NEXT corner! > > Uh, just hold on to the next corner, would you?" It's starting to wear a > > little thin. > > Best Regards > Pascal LACROIX > - -- > GPG Public Key available at http://gpg.mit.edu > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+Jo/FkEN5g66hPygRAh3XAJ9okUFQ3jF9aiBK96TbE9/lTOzpegCfZxzw > ght/z4uX0ozzgUB7njWiE2k= > =TCGE > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Fisrt of all : is the signing web site available, i cannot reach it ... Second : about the thread. I think the ongoing problems for Mandrake is that they don't yet offer sufficient goodies to clients for having them buy a pack or subscribe a club membership. I've participated in some betas now, and i think i've paid enough (time) to Mdk's developpment. This is the way i give it back. I'll continue with the 9.1 release ... I've also buy a pack for myself (8.0) and for my lab (8.1), but i'm now using 8.2 in the lab and 9.0 at home. In 8.2 i had a cdrom problem very annoying, and it is ONLY because i've subscribed to cooker that i have been able to cope with it : i 've disactivated the DMA for it and the random hungs disapeared. (LG model of cd burner(HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B in harddrake). I called the technical service, they complained about my 8.1 version instead of 8.2, but after one hour, they couldn't help me and finally i hang down the phone. i called another time for a network-printing problem and the same story.
Another story here : we have received severall machines with linux installed on it. But it was ReHat, although i'm in France. The seller is German, and it's not also SuSe ... What about this ? In order to have a better visibility, Mandrake should be clearer : - what support do i REALLY get if i buy a pack ? - if the support for my product does not include what i'm asking, propose a solution for it, i'm not convinced the club is the right answer through what i've heard and seen. - they need more contracts with indusries, it's where money is, research machines could be also built with Mandrake's distribution ! - finally, in order to add something : when you buy a pack, the commercial apps should work (for the less) all through a serie (8.0->8.2) and some directions should explain how to correct the incompatibilities. To end, the economic scene is not very clear at the moment, and i think some economic problems are not just Mdk specific, but in this perturb context, they should correct already what is not working well, instead of only asking for money. Stef
