--- On Sat 02/08, Salane King < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
From: Salane King [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 00:56:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

On Friday 07 February 2003 09:44 pm, Salane King wrote:
> On Friday 07 February 2003 09:26 pm, Pascal wrote:
> > Le Samedi 8 F�vrier 2003 02:58, Gregory K. Meyer a �crit :
> > > >I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have
> > > >DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first
> > > >
> > > > >before you answer foolishly.
> > >
> > > No need to be rude BTW, I did try to help after all.  And it was you
> > > who answered foolishly.
> > >
> > > Gregory K. Meyer
> >
> > Yep, and mister salane please, before complaining next, read the mailing
> > list archive with your favorite find tool, the answers are all there for
> > that recent problem...
>
> to quote what i was disturbed at
>
> >>this upgrade broke my login with kdm and startx as well on reboot
> >>/var/log/messages that may be pertanant
> >
> >No it didn't, it just split kdm out as a seperate package.
>
> Too many times there have been many times that the answer for problems have
> been "oh it works here" or "No it is not broken" something to that order.
> This list needs less of this type of condensation. However my appolgies are
> in order. So to get that out of the way. We need to try to help the
> frustrated people with problems they need help with, realizing that at that
> point in time they have understandably short fuses. We should never
> trivialize peoples problems. That is why linux faces such an uphill battle
> with becoming a Desktop fact unstead of a want to be.
>
>  I was aware of the mdkkdm problem however until 14mdk I had no problems.
> except for the past 3 or for upgrades nothing that i put in
> /etc/sysconfig/desktop had any effect and i had even forgot i had changed
> them. For they didn't have any effect! only after checking a few thing that
> I realized what happened. There have been many times that upgrades do break
> things and nothing helps except reinstalling the distro especially when I
> upgrade many  things. I appriciate the help by the way. I am glad that with
> both your help that didn't happen this time.

Of course being tired now of fighting this, but  after reinstalling 14 and 
changing the  /etc/sysconfig/desktop to kdm and then to kde. Of course as 
with my luck, neither allowed anything other than failsafe. Only gdm works to 
login to kde.   As i said i am tired of fighting this now. gdm is my safe bet 
until later in the long beta cycle or after i reinstall again to get all of 
the conf files right.

It's not worth continuing the prior conversation, so I'll leave it alone.  
Misunderstandings happen and people overreact.

When I get to the point you are at now, I do a clean install.  Of course, I keeo a 
local mirror of the entire Cooker tree, so I get al the updates at the sme time so I'm 
not sure how that solution works for you if you only have the beta3 iso's

Gregory K. Meyer

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