On Thursday 20 February 2003 05:38 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, et wrote: > > well then I believe it is also the same the first time you start > > X-CD-Roast from the menu, (Kmenu. Application, Archiving, CD Burning, > > x-cd-roast) and it gives no clue as to any other way to start xcdroast > > other than an error box with an OK button that says "No root > > configuration or not readable! The superuser must start and configure > > X-CD-Roast first, before other users can use it. > > Ahhh, thanks for reminding me why I don't use X-CDRoast ;-). <sarcasm>Great answer,,, I think I will file that one away and use it later,,,,</sarcasm>
> > I contend the in the past, a newbie could (and would) log out, login as > > root > > Ok, so someone needs to add a menu option for running X-CD-Roast setup via > kdesu (or consolehelper or whatever). and someone else can (spend the rest of their life to) make sure no one ever writes another program that "needs" to be run as root that someone might want to run on a Mandrake OS that has mdkkdm? > > > I am not a customer, I have not paid money for Crossover. Money usually > > > speaks better than words, and if for example there is not Mandrake > > > kernel for win4lin (which I have paid for), you can be sure I will > > > write to NeTraverse. > > > > > > , and since I bought it as part of a > > > AFAIK you only get an evaluation copy of Crossover on the Powerpack, > > > but see below ... > > > > yep that is correct, so the only folks that _sold_ me any software was > > the folks I gave money to for the powerpack. > > But they probably did not sell you Crossover ... they sold you StarOffice, > and happened to bundle an eval (slight difference). Really? what I _thought_ I was buying was the Mandrake PowerPAck. if it came with Star Office, or joe's Office pack, I thought I was buying whatever was packed in the powerpack. I was not considering a purchase from Sun, I could sware it was the MAndrakeStore that charged my credit card. I (personally) do not need or use crossover, but that is just me. I just clicked around on the menus and came up with 2 programs that I think most newbies would start by loging out as user and login as root and run. > > > If it is a Mandrake package, mail the packager listed in the changelog > > > (it would be nice to have commercial RPMS also available in Bugzilla). > > > > > > But I still do not see how this is an mdkkdm bug. > > > > well the change in mdkkdm (not having a text box for user name) is what > > made these other programs have a problem. In relatioon to a a new users > > eyes, they were not broken until mdkkdm fixed them. > > Well, I would prefer better options than X-CD-Roast. k3b seems mostly good > enough, and it has been patched not to do stupid things on first start. > > > > <sarcasm>What about msec, which would also prevent you from logging in > > > as root? Maybe you should file a bug there too??</sarcasm>. > > > > Msec did do what we are talking about (previously), it just depended on > > the level of security chosen. as I understand it (and please correct me > > if I am mistaken) currently there is no way to type in a user name (root) > > if it is not one of the displayed names (and a screenshot might be a good > > thing for trolls like myself to get a clearer picture) perhaps this to > > (the current complaint as I understand it) is a function of the level of > > msec security chosen? > > Yes, I think in level 4 you will not get a user list. We have > allow_user_list(0) > in our /etc/security/msec/levels.local (IIRC), and so we never see a user > list, just a user/passwd dialog, even with mdkkdm. > > Buchan