-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Austin Acton wrote: > Well, while talking to the Linux Audio User's Group, my idea was that > everything they want in a specialized audio distro, we could easily have > with a little work. But it's not turning out to be so easy. > > Mainly this includes: > 1. low-latency, preemptable, capabilities kernel > 2. jackd with capabilities > 3. ardour > 4. lots of cool sound toys > > So far we've had problems with 1, 2, and 3. The kernel was graciously > made by Danny, and I can easily make an SMP version, but we can't seem > to get it into contribs, and we have no commitment that it will be the > same version as that in main at release time. It would help if we had a > little cooperation from MDK team on this.
Chmouel/Juan, are you guys able to give an answer on this? I am sure if you Danny can be told "This will be the final kernel for 9.1" a few days in advance, he should be able to get a the multimedia kernel working. I am also sure that if he has problems uploading it, or has to repatch/rebuild often he will not be keen ... > > As for jackd with capabilities, I had to make it a compile-time option. Why? Does it need the mutli-media kernel, or is there some other issue? How about building it parallel, so that a build of the srpm builds it once without capabilities, once with, and have the two packages obsolete each other etc so that you can swap between them with: # urpmi jackit or # urpmi jackit-capabilities I would guess then that jackit-capabilities would require the multimedia kernel? > This is fine for experienced users, but a pain otherwise. I wish there > was an easier way. > > Also, I've almost finished ardour, only to learn that 'the author' > doesn't want binary copies distributed, because he's afraid users will > pester him and/or us about bugs/limitations which he already know > about. If he does not want users to use his software, he should not make it available. Users should be aware that the first place they file bugs is with their distro. > He does however allow gentoo to have an emerge script from CVS. > So either we disrespect his wishes (and they are only wishes; there's no > clause in the GPL saying source-code only distribution), or I will adapt > my SRPM to do a CVS checkout. Probably go with latter option. No want > to step on any toes if possible. But that is ridiculous. What if you *happen* to get a totally wasted copy from cvs? It is better to have a binary package that is known to at least run. > > I expected to tell people, "Hey we've got an easy to use, fully capable > distro that will do all the cool audio stuff you want out-of-the-box. > Just: urpmi jack ardour kernel-multimedia." > > Currently, I will have to make a long page of detailed instructions > like: > 1. go to a mirror and download jack and ardour SRPMS > 2. install devel packages (cvs, gcc, etc) > 3. rebuild jack --with-realtime (a few mintues) > 4. rebuild ardour (long download, VERY long build) > 5. go to club and get a membership if you don't have one > 6. download kernel-multimedia > 7. install your new kernel, jack, and ardour rpms > 8. reboot and run jackstart > > Quite a task for a Windows-user, and not as cool as just running urpmi. > The one cool thing is it pushes people to join the club, but I > anticipate some resistance to paying just to download the linux kernel > (of all things). > > Any ideas/suggestions? 1)See if we can campaing Mandrakesoft to assist getting Danny's kernel into contrib 2)build 2 versions of jackit in the srpm 3)Ignore the ardour author's wishes, but offer to handle bug reports from Mandrake users (by directing them to bugzilla), and provide binaries. Danny, where can I get your latest SRPM? Can I give it a try uploading to contrib on klama? Buchan - -- |--------------Another happy Mandrake Club member--------------| Buchan Milne Mechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work +27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+X4U8rJK6UGDSBKcRAtk2AKCrOCheFEndUjeRjopIPcjsEonXIACgsVZ1 UOxrXb3shI+vQafFBPQPNtc= =0h8u -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
