On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 10:50, Buchan Milne wrote:
> > As for jackd with capabilities, I had to make it a compile-time option.
> 
> Why? Does it need the mutli-media kernel, or is there some other issue?

It's the same, except in the capabilities version, there is an extra
script, jackstart, which has to be suid root.  I think it's pretty
harmless without the capabilities kernel, but I'm not an expert.  WITH
the capabilities kernel, it is decidedly unsafe.

> How about building it parallel, so that a build of the srpm builds it
> once without capabilities, once with, and have the two packages obsolete
> each other etc so that you can swap between them with:
> 
> # urpmi jackit
> or
> # urpmi jackit-capabilities

That would be great if jack was in contribs.  But since it's in main, I
don't think they want any suid scripts at all.  Not sure about that
though.

> > Also, I've almost finished ardour, only to learn that 'the author'
> > doesn't want binary copies distributed, because he's afraid users will
> > pester him and/or us about bugs/limitations which he already know
> > about.
> 
> If he does not want users to use his software, he should not make it
> available. Users should be aware that the first place they file bugs is
> with their distro.

Many people are 'respecting' his unpublished wishes (Planet CCRMA,
debian), and others aren't (connetiva has an rpm), and some get around
it (gentoo).

> But that is ridiculous. What if you *happen* to get a totally wasted
> copy from cvs? It is better to have a binary package that is known to at
> least run.

You're preaching to the choir here Buchan.  :-)

> 1)See if we can campaing Mandrakesoft to assist getting Danny's kernel
> into contrib
> 2)build 2 versions of jackit in the srpm
> 3)Ignore the ardour author's wishes, but offer to handle bug reports
> from Mandrake users (by directing them to bugzilla), and provide binaries.

This I really like.  The only real problem is having a suid script in
main.  Maybe we can have jackit in main and jackit-capabilities in
contribs?  I know it's messy though.

Thanks for your help/support Buchan.

Austin
-- 
                        Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc.
             Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant
           Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
             MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com)
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