On Thursday 06 March 2003 2:24 pm, Jan Ciger wrote:
> On Thursday 06 March 2003 19:39, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 17:26, andre wrote:
> > > On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:17, waschk wrote:
> > > > ------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 2003-03-06 09:17 ------- Hey, this is no important package, it's 12
> > > > MB of stuff that can be better used for applications.
> > >
> > > divide it up in essential and pretty
> >
> > Except none of it's essential, because the system works without it.
> > No-one *needs* a screensaver, let alone hundreds of 'em.
>
> Well, with the same logic you could as well argue, that nobody *needs* KDE
> or Gnome, since you work with plain X as well. Definitely true, but also
> not for everybody.
>
> The 'hundreds' of screensavers is nonsense - there are just 23 of them in
> there, some pretty "standard" - e.g. morph3d or lines. If even NT included
> them, we now remove them as redundant ...
>
> Moreover, the package contains some wallpapers and other things too.
>
> For many people a screensaver is more important than e.g. having several
> kernel versions and lots of different window managers/desktop environments
> available on CD's, since they have no idea what they are for and how to use
> them. They will just stick with the default KDE. Do not underestimate the
> power of eye candy, it is in many cases the point which sells.
>
> First question of my girlfriend when I upgraded her 8.2 to 9.0 was - "where
> is my favorite wallpaper ??". She does not give a damn about a lot's of
> stuff she has on the CD, but she want's a pretty desktop. How would you
> explain to her, that the upgrade made it look "worse", but "you actually do
> not need that" ? Fortunately, she knows better and spent a good time
> learning how to work with Linux (she is a nurse, for the record), but
> that's not the general case.
>
> Then there was an argument, that e.g. the screen burn-in is a non-issue.
> Look at Slashdot and search a bit, you will find an article pointing out
> exactly the opposite - the burn-in is the same as it always was, just is
> not seen so often, because of the screensavers and various DPMS modes used.
>
> I would consider this package quite essential for a desktop oriented
> distro, you should not have to go and download something as basic as a
> screensaver.
>
>
> Jan
I don't think the package is essential but I in no way think that it should be left
out. I was pretty pissed the last time the screensavers were left out and don't want
to see this happening again. For those of you who don't think the screensavers are
essential then and shoudn't be added by that logic lm_sensors shouldn't be added
either. What's more it takes too much time to even get it working properly. At least
with the screensavers it's click and go. And don't get me started on crap like
7colors. who the hell even plays that game.
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