Hi, Charlotte, Yes, the oven and exact timing and temperature sure do make a difference! I have had 2 really old used stoves, and one year, I baked shortbread cookies and mom decided she did not want to bake, so that's why I did it, and we sent them or part of them to this uncle in NY who at the time was in his eighties, and had severe diabetes, and was losing his sight! Losing his eyesight, feeling sorry for himself, when he kept saying he was blind, he could still write out checks, could see and identify people across the street from his recliner chair, could see trucks, cars, identify their makes, know when postman was arriving, but he could not see. well, i sent the cookies; we gave others away here, no comments, but this old coot, he had me raging mad, totally livid! He calls mom and says to her, "yeah, they're okay, but kind of burnt on the bottom, huh, don't you think?" They were dark!, but not! burnt!, or we would not! have sent them. my comment? I wish I were as blind as he claims to be! OOOOOh, that really maddened me! He got his last batch of cookies from me. at the time, I figured, his nephew and wife who lived right near to him and did not help out that much could start baking for him! Oh, speaking of plum cake, Mom had a delicious recipe for one, and we, unfortunately, lost it.
Sandy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: [CnD] Newlywed Cooking


Oh, Sandy, I remember those newlywed cooking failures I had, too.  So glad
that gets better!

We had a horribly old gas stove in the house we rented as newlyweds.  We
didn't realize till we moved and bought our first electric stove 2 years
into our marriage that one of the main faults with my cooking had been that old stove. I knew that Ken ate really well when we visited our parents, but
not as well when I cooked.  Once we got that new stove and I began to cook
more, I noticed he was eating my food much better. Then he told me one day
that my cooking had improved dramatically once we had that new stove.  It
really gave a big boost to my confidence, so I began to try all kinds of
things.

Another thing I used to make a lot was a plum cake.  I made them for
everything, friends, church, cake walks at school, you name it.

Then about 15 years after we married, we moved here.  We had a built-in
oven, and I knew I didn't like it much, but the first time I made a plum
cake in that oven just the exact way I always did, same time and
temperature, it burned, and I cried the rest of the day!  That oven always
cooked at the wrong temperature, but Ken's sister felt so bad about it, she
helped me figure out just how to time it and set it so it would turn out.
Finally, 8 years later, we were able to get a new stove, and it has been a
good one. However, after nearly 17 years, this one is showing its age, so I
know another new oven loomes in our future.

And, thankfully, I can handle the changes now.

Charlotte
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy, OK!" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [CnD] Doneness of Brownies!


Gee whiz! I can't begin to tell you how many years ago it was that I made my
first batch of brownies! I guess mom and I made them when I was home. Then
the disaster in 1969! I was first married, afraid to light the gas stove
'til my hubby devised an easy way for me to do it, and so one night while he was at work, I wanted to surprise him with brownies, and whipped up a batch,
and duh! how can I bake them!? I put them into the toaster oven, it only
cooked on the top, so it baked on the top where the heat was, and the bottom
was raw! I sat there and cried! my first batch of brownies after being
married a short time, a dumb newly wed! grin!
Sandy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [CnD] Doneness of Brownies!


I made my first batch of brownies almost thirty years ago. My favorite
thing. I knew a lady who lived to be 100. She never could make brownies.
They were always overdone.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CnD] Doneness of Brownies!


Absolutely right.  They are overdone if the toothpick is clean.  I've
been
making brownies for 40 years, and this has been my experience.

If I had a nickel for every batch I have made... wow!

Charlotte
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [CnD] Doneness of Brownies!


I agree. I usually just touch the top and the tester should have a
little of brownie crumbs on it. I'd rather underdo them. When the tester
comes out clean, they are overdone.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Immigrant
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CnD] Doneness of Brownies!


I apologize. You are probably right about pan size. But I still would
not bake them until a tester comes out clean, they would be overdone.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Bailey
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CnD] Doneness of Brownies!

When I last had a brownie box and it gave pan sizes, it allowed more
time with a smaller pan, since the brownies are thicker, but I always
check brownies before they are suppose to be done, because I hat them to
be overdone. Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Immigrant" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; "'Claudia'"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [CnD] Doneness of Brownies!


I would bake them less in an 11 by 7-inch pan. As for doneness test,
the  wooden pick, for most brownie recipes, should come out with a few
crumbs  attached. If it comes out clean, the brownies may be overbaked.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [CnD] Doneness of Brownies!

Hi All,

For those of you who make brownies on a regular basis, I have some
questions.  If I used an 11 by 7 brownie pan, how long should I bake
the brownies?  I used a box of Pillsbury brownies, and for a 9 by 13
pan, it stated that they needed to bake for 28 to 33 minutes! And,
does the same concept apply for testing their doneness, inserting a
toothpick in them, to see if it comes out clean? Thanks.


Claudia
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