I first wanna apologize to the mods here. But here's my thoughts on subject
lines.
I agree with you Lora.
This is crazy.
I will unsubscribe  if this keeps up.
I don't mind changing subject lines but ya know, people do forget sometimes.
Things happen.
You can't expect people to always change a subject line especially if they
don't know how to do it.
I never read them I just look at the body anyway.
Only thing I read subject lines for is to see what list the message is from.
So yes I agree with her on this one.
I have been in many lists where if you didn't change the subject lines it
didn't matter, the ones where it did matter I unsubscribed after being
yelled at over five times.
I'm human and humans make small errors, one of them is changing such a
subject line.

I mean who the hell looks at subject lines anyway.
I don't truly and I'm sure there are others who don't either unless it's
something they wanna keep. Just my 2 scents, if I've offended people well, I
apologize.
If this message holds my ticket to being thrown off the list, I also
apologize but I think she's right here.
You can't call this list a list for the blind if you're super sensitive on
subject lines when there are certain screen readers some have that won't let
ya change it plum simply.
Some do and some people forget as well.
Thanks for reading and again if I've offended  anyone I'm very sorry.
Jerry Mader

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lora Leggett
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 8:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CnD] Subject Lines Discussion Gone Too Far

Frankly I am getting so tired of hearing about subject lines I would
unsubscribe if I had not been in and out of the group for a long time and I
have gotten some valuable ideas here.
If it is not a recipe that I do save in folders and they always have the
titles as a subject I am going to read and delete letters anyway.  So I do
not understand all this bru-ha-ha about subjects for something we are going
to open, read a few seconds and delete anyway.
I am always telling people to stop being so negative but I have had it up to
here about subject lines.  If people can't do it, they can't do it.  This is
supposed to be a group for the blind and my first screen reader was very
limited and there were certain things I just could not do with Simply Talker
98 that I can with NVDA now.  So why should we be so much harder on blind or
disabled people than we expect the whole society to be?  If someone says
something about a person's dog being thrown out of a public place we are
ready to call the government on them and yet if a person says their device
is hard to change the subject on we're all over them. Of course I tab or
shift tab over and change the darned subject line or delete the long threads
that go underneath if I want.  But I respect some people can't or don't know
how.  We should not call ourselves a group for the blind if we are going to
yell at people for not making messages look the way we want. I think it is
stupid not to give people what we expect out of the sighted world.
Sorry but it has gotten too tall for me.
Lora
  ----- Original Message -----
From: "Allison Fallin" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CnD] Hey there folks I'm Jerry Mader
justwantedtosayhiandintroduce myself.


> What about changing subject lines!
> Allison
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerry Mader <[email protected]
> To: <[email protected]
> Date sent: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:03:45 -0400
> Subject: Re: [CnD] Hey there folks I'm Jerry Mader just 
> wantedtosayhiandintroduce myself.
>
> I have a talking timer but no batteries for it.
> Anyone know where to get those button shaped batteries?
> They're about as big around as an aspirin?
> Later
> Jerry Mader
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Becky
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 5:40 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CnD] Hey there folks I'm Jerry Mader just wanted 
> tosayhiandintroduce myself.
>
> Hello there, I have never purchased this item before, but I know that 
> Maxie Aids has a liquid indicator that you can use when pouring hot 
> drinks.
> Blind
> mice megga mall might also sell it too.
> Another thing that helps me very much in the kitchen is my talking timer.
> I'm a stay at home mom and I've also been blind since birth.  Well 
> anyhow, I'm allways multitasking so that reminds me to check on things 
> that I'm cooking in the kitchen to see if they are ready.
> You can buy that at Maxie Aids as well.
> Hope I was able to help.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Mader" <[email protected]
> To: <[email protected]
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [CnD] Hey there folks I'm Jerry Mader just wanted to 
> sayhiandintroduce myself.
>
>
> You did both you and Sarah.
> Yeah I'm thinking that I'm gonna get the Oven mitts for sure.
> Also what sort of indicators can I get that will let me know when I'm 
> pouring a hot drink that I'm at almost the top of the glass/cup?
> Anyone know?
> Later
> Jerry Mader
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rebecca 
> Manners
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 8:57 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CnD] Hey there folks I'm Jerry Mader just wanted to say 
> hiandintroduce myself.
>
> Hi, Jerry.
>
> I have also been blind since birth and have been cooking for years.
>
> As for burning your fingers, the only thing I can think of is to be 
> cautious.  It happens to everyone.  Those oven mitts are a great idea.
> I plan to get some myself at some point.
>
> As for your microwave, you could use braille labels; you could also 
> use inexpensive dots, puff-paint, etc.  It depends on your preference 
> and how comfortable you are finding numbers and other controls without 
> actually having to read each one in braille.  I am very comfortable 
> with braille; however, I am also comfortable with finding controls if 
> I have something to mark them.  As a result, our microwave is marked 
> with plastic jewels from walmart.
>
> I hope this email is not too rambling and hope I helped a little.
>
> Becky
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Mader
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 10:02 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [CnD] Hey there folks I'm Jerry Mader just wanted to say hi 
> andintroduce myself.
>
> Hi there.
> I'm Jerry Mader.
> Been blind since birth.
> Just now learning to cook at 29 years old.
> I have a chef for a future step dad and he's awesome at it but doesn't 
> know how to teach me the basics of cooking as I can't see so I came 
> here for tips and tricks.
> I also air Dale Campbell's cooking in the dark show on Monday 
> afternoon, right after the Mader Morning Jam  at twelve o'clock.
> on Http://www.maderradio.net
> So I figured here's be the place to be to learn to cook.
> What I'm mostly worried about is burning my fingers, but I guess 
> everyone gets burned sometimes.
> How can I avoid this?
> I have heard of the oven mitts that Dale has advertised on the show 
> which I am gonna give a try.
> Also what about labeling this microwave because it is a flat screened 
> control panel.
> Are there any suggestions.
> Jerry Mader
>
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