Apologies I missed the previous email.

On my talk I reflected on the gap that exists between more technical (eg, RIPE, 
IETF) and less-technical communities/stakeholders (eg, policy makers, civil 
society). How technical communities strive for openness and transparency (eg, 
public mail-lists, open standards) and how that does result in accessible 
information for less-technical stakeholders.

I discussed how analytics can leverage openness to help understand dynamics 
that occur in technical forums. I exemplified this by analysing 20 years of 
IETF data and showing some of its inner dynamics and trends.

This is just one of the pieces of the puzzle and I totally agree that bridging 
across the gap requires people that can act as "translators/interpreters" 
across communities. I think that the bird-eye view that these analytics can 
provide can help them in doing so.

Best,

Ignacio


does not imply accessible. I have perceived that less-technical 
communities/stakeholders struggle to understand and relate to the technical 
ones.

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From: cooperation-wg <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Niall 
O'Reilly
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 11:47 AM
To: RIPE Cooperation Working Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Bridging the Gap

Someone who wasn't at the session asked me what I was referring to.
I can see that, without the context, it be baffling.

I hope this clarifies what I meant.

I am very grateful to that someone (you know who you are!) for asking me to 
explain.

On 30 Nov 2023, at 14:26, Niall O'Reilly wrote:

> I expect that, in order to address some aspects of the comprehension problem 
> which Ignacio describes, we shall be looking to people in roles like Romain's 
> and Innocenzo's to act as diplomatic intermediators between those who need to 
> understand and those who can explain.

Ignacio Castro spoke in the Co-operation WG session about bridging the gap 
between Internet stakeholders, and explained that our processes, in RIPE and in 
the IETF, may well be open, but are, however, not very accessible to the 
un-initiated.

The main thing which I took away from Ignacio's presentation was the imperative 
to create connections between key individuals on either side of the 
"comprehension gap" (my phrase), so as to facilitate reciprocal awareness 
between different stakeholder communities, such as between the technical 
community and government.

In the same session, Romain Bosc, who is the RIPE NCC's new "Brussels agent", 
and Innocenzo Genna, who is EU Advisor for Namex, spoke about EU regulatory 
developments, respectively in general and with specific focus on the Digital 
Network Act.

What I wanted to say in my earlier message was, that Romain and Innocenzo seem 
particularly well placed to set up contacts between people on either side of 
the "comprehension gap", so promoting constructive dialogue, and that we should 
encourage them to do so.

I hope this helps.

Niall

PS. Material from the session is available via this URL:
    https://ripe87.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/coop-wg/
    /N

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