A question or two for the wise folk here.

To what extent can the tech community rely on policy wonks in EU and
national ministries to work within our I* ways (ietf/rir/icann/isoc)?

I and many have tried to join these dots for a couple of decades plus
partly as there's never been resource to support always on diplomacy by
the tech communities I've been participant in - and ... not convinced
this has worked.

To what extent is the tech community orgs representing their special
perspectives meaningfully within the policy wonkery institutions and getting 
traction
especially distinguishing those perspectives from the significant
lobbying of industry players?

In other words if they won't can't come to us on our turf. How are we
doing to represent ourselves powerfully (coordinated and with clear
messaging) within their pitches?

Out of the so referred I* how is this working now? (Noting lots of weird
regs coming down the pipe on ID, Access networks, Safety, attacks on
encryption and so on and so forth.

C


"Niall O'Reilly" <[email protected]> writes:

> Someone who wasn't at the session asked me what I was referring to.
> I can see that, without the context, it be baffling.
>
> I hope this clarifies what I meant.
>
> I am very grateful to that someone (you know who you are!) for asking me to 
> explain.
>
> On 30 Nov 2023, at 14:26, Niall O'Reilly wrote:
>
>> I expect that, in order to address some aspects of the comprehension
>> problem which Ignacio describes, we shall be looking to people in
>> roles like Romain's and Innocenzo's to act as diplomatic
>> intermediators between those who need to understand and those who
>> can explain.
>
> Ignacio Castro spoke in the Co-operation WG session about bridging the gap 
> between
> Internet stakeholders, and explained that our processes, in RIPE and in the 
> IETF,
> may well be open, but are, however, not very accessible to the un-initiated.
>
> The main thing which I took away from Ignacio's presentation was the
> imperative to create connections between key individuals on either side
> of the "comprehension gap" (my phrase), so as to facilitate reciprocal
> awareness between different stakeholder communities, such as between
> the technical community and government.
>
> In the same session, Romain Bosc, who is the RIPE NCC's new "Brussels agent",
> and Innocenzo Genna, who is EU Advisor for Namex, spoke about EU regulatory
> developments, respectively in general and with specific focus on the Digital
> Network Act.
>
> What I wanted to say in my earlier message was, that Romain and Innocenzo
> seem particularly well placed to set up contacts between people on either
> side of the "comprehension gap", so promoting constructive dialogue, and
> that we should encourage them to do so.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Niall
>
> PS. Material from the session is available via this URL:
>     https://ripe87.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/coop-wg/
>     /N


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Christian de Larrinaga 

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